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The main thing the build quality...it feels cheap

I agree

Yup, I have them on a low setting...only dialed up to the 4th dot

@diana a , I'm not sure which this is

Cons: Like I mentioned, compared to the gyre, it doesn't seem as solid when I held it in my hand. For the price, overall I like it, right now i have them both on opposite, alternating gyre modes and I have already seen junk getting kicked up from dead spots Time will tell, but this unit...

Pros (cont.) The pumps have self protective functions in case they run out of water. The pump will shut off when out for more that 10 seconds. Magnet, though flimsy seems to be very, very song so I don't forsee this moving or falling off

When the lights turn on, I'm going to take more pix. But as of right now here are my thoughts Pros: these pumps move water. When I 1st installed them, not realizing I had it upside down, when I plugged It in I shot a bunch of water straught out of my tank and onto my floor. I like the east...

Assembly diagram

It's pretty long...I would say that they are longer than my old gyre....

So far it seems to be ok, I have the 2x mounted

I'm on my phone, so it takes forever to upload pix

Here is a pic of the unit that I received, not sure about which model I got. Also a few shots of them in the box, the controllers and what not

Also just by holding it, compared to the gyre, you can tell and feel it's alot less sturdy...the dry side magent, for example is alot more flimsy The one on the right is the gyre dry side

Packing seemed pretty solid, until I removed the 1st unit from the box. Apparently one of the magnets got stuck to one another, so when I tried to take them apart, the inner rubber cushion tore..so 1 piece of it is stuck on the other side

So, pumps came in today I have mixed feelings about them.

Your can get a seneye seneye Reef - unique water monitoring device with PAR meter - seneye

I think ACC does that

I have my personal issues with the apex fusion but i haven't had the need yet to deal with customer service

I have always wanted one of these guys...