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Coral dipping

redfishbluefish

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Bayer Advance’s active ingredient is a nicotine based insecticide that works as a neurotoxin. It’s a very common insecticide sold under numerous brand names, and used for trees, shrubs and turf, as well as ticks and fleas on your little furry friends.

As far as it working as a coral dip, this guy in the video obviously figured out the dilution and duration that kills the “bugs,” but not the coral. Hey, if it works, go for it. I’ve also heard of people using Lysol to dip their corals, so this kind of thing doesn’t surprise me.

I did sort of question were this guy is buying his corals if he’s coming up with flat worms and red bugs out of the six or so corals he dipped.




fatoldsun said:
What's with the bad 70s chicka-bump-bump-bah-nah soundtrack?
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Not 70’s chicka-bump-bump, but:

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I was sort of getting into it, with it reminding me of when CD 101.9 used to exclusively play cool jazz.
 
fatoldsun

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redfishbluefish said:
I’ve also heard of people using Lysol to dip their corals, so this kind of thing doesn’t surprise me.

I did sort of question were this guy is buying his corals if he’s coming up with flat worms and red bugs out of the six or so corals he dipped.
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Funny you said Lysol because the smell of CoralRX always reminded me of Lestoil (sp?) and as for the smooth jazz I'd have preferred some commentary b/c I'm not sure I'd wanna go with getting all the red bugs and flat worms hopped up on nicotine and risk over doing it. I'd just end up with hoarse bugs and worms. Of course that would fit well with the KOOL JAZZ theme :)
 
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Considering how cheap and readily available revive and a bunch of other dips are I will take my chances with those.
 
MadReefer

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For a minute when I viewed this I thought it was spam and a porno was going to start.

I was curious of this process as others said why take the chance when you can get CoralRX and Revive.
I would stop buying my coral from where ever with all those pests.
I think Revive smells like Pine Sol by the way.
 
ricwilli

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That method works. I have been using it for a while now. I also have Revive and prefer the Bayer than Revive. I use 5ml of Bayers to 2 cups of saltwater. Others have used stronger dosage with no ill affect to the corals. I dip all my SPS, and LPS other than Scoly's. I have never lost any of my corals that have been dipped in Bayer.
Trust me, almost every lfs has some type of pests on their corals. I have dipped them in Bayer after bringing them home and killed lots of pests. Below is a vid of a coral that I got from a buddy of mine and we did our first try with the Bayer. Judge for yourself if it works. I lost that piece in my crash. But the corals that survived the crash, were previously dipped in Bayer. The link to RC thread about this process is under the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZ4RZUIpdE
 
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TanksNStuff

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I was a lil bored this morning, so I decided to do a lil math to compare this stuff to other more popular choices. If you don't want to hurt your head, you don't have to follow along... just skip down to the results at the bottom of each product. ;) I tried to use colors to associate factors for specific versions of each product... so blue/red/green text instructions show where I found info for the same colored text in the equations.
First up, the DIY mix in Mark's OP (Bayer Advanced)

The math:
Since the method in Mark's OP is a DIY Dip, I'm going to use the dosage recommended in the video he linked. In the beginning, he states he uses (4) x 2ml syringes for a total of 8ml of Bayer Advanced per 1 liter of saltwater. Since the other products will be done in US measurements, I'll just make things simple and convert this one to US... I used a "Convert Pad" app on my droid because my math here is enough to folow as it is, so please accept these as correct or convert them yourself if you like. :p Also, I'm basing this off of a 32 oz bottle of Bayer Advanced which HD's website lists at $12.97.

32 oz = 946 ml.
Since he uses 8ml per liter, divide by 8 and that gives you roughly 118 batches of 1 L saltwater.
118 L = 31 US Gallons, so this means you get 31 gallons of Dip per 32 oz bottle of Bayer Advanced @ $12.97
$12.97 divided by 31 gallons = just under 42 cents per gallon so we'll go with $0.42 / gallon
Next up is Coral RX Pro.
In order to make things simple, I just took the info from the following quote for their product desctiption:
Coral Rx can be purchased in three different concentration levels: Coral Rx, Coral Rx Pro and Coral Rx Industrial. Coral Rx (8oz) is ideal for retail store sales, and produces approximately 12 gallons of coral dip. Coral Rx Pro (1oz & 4oz) is ideal for online orders to reduce shipping cost, and produces approximately 17 gallons and 66 gallons respectively. Coral Rx Industrial (8oz & 16 oz) is ideal for organizations caring for a large quantity of corals, and produces approximately 295 gallons and 590 gallons respectively
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For pricing, I'm just going to use Premium Aquatics' pricing (they don't carry the "industrial" so I'll ignore that here):
Coral Rx 8 oz. = $ 17.99
Coral Rx Pro 1 oz. = $ 23.39
Coral Rx Pro 4 oz. = $ 71.99

So, as per the description above, we have the following yields per bottle:
Coral Rx 8 oz. = 12 G for $17.99... which gives you roughly $1.50 / gallon
Coral Rx Pro 1 oz. = 17 G for $23.39... which gives you roughly $1.38 / gallon
Coral Rx Pro 4 oz. = 66 G for $71.99... which gives you roughly $1.09 / gallon (Cheapest for this product)
Next up is ReVive.
They didn't have mixing details for ReVive on PA's website, but I found it on Marine Depot's site:
Directions: Mix 4 capfuls (40 ml) of ReVive per gallon of clean saltwater in a bucket or other container suitable for bathing the coral. Wash coral in this mixture for a few minutes while gently swirling it or use an air stone for agitation.
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This is a 16.8 oz. bottle for $7.89. Some math is needed here:
16.8 oz. = 497 ml (Bottle says 500 ml, so we'll use the round number)
Instructions say mix 40 ml per gallon so 500 / 40 = roughly 12.5 batches @ 1G (we'll say 12 to be safe)

They also have a 16.8 oz. Concentrate ReVive with instructions as below:
Mix 1 capful (10ml) of ReVive Concentrate per gallon (3.8L) of clean, aged seawater at room temperature in a bucket or other container suitable for bathing the coral.
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This is a 16.8 oz. bottle for $29.69. More math:
16.8 oz. = 500 ml
Instructions say to mix 10 ml per gallon so 500 / 10 = 50 batches @ 1G

So, as per the math above, we have the following yields per bottle:
ReVive 16.8 oz. = 12 G for $7.89... which gives you roughly $0.66 / gallon
ReVive 16.8 oz. Concentrate = 50 G for $29.69... which gives you roughly $0.59 / gallon (Cheapest for this product).

I could do this for every product out there... but I'm not that bored and don't have that much time. :rolleyes:

Bottom line, it's certainly cheaper per mixed gallon than the popular products I calculated. However, it's only 17 cents per gallon cheaper than the best price on ReVive (and if you shop around I'm sure you get get that even cheaper, or on a group buy with no taxes, for example.) It seems to be safe and effective. I just don't see a big enough savings to risk it IMO.

What this did show me though was that ReVive is a better value than Coral Rx Pro. So making that choice will be to try Rx Pro only if ReVive doesn't work first for me.

Please feel free to double check my math or correct any mistakes I made. Hope this helps all of you make your own decisions.
 
MadReefer

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George, you must have been really bored. Thanks for the details.

Rich, good to know someone used this method.
 
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