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Odd. Scam?

Mark_C

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So, I found a craigslist post for some Innovative Marine stuff - skimmer, reactor, fuge light, etc. The pics all look legit, showing shipping boxes and all equipment. It seems the story of a tank purchase which was never set up.

The original ad reads:
Nuvo 20 gallon aquarium all in one.
New condition with box . Return pump included. Screen top included.
2 led lights $45 each or best offer.
2 innovative marine protein skimmer $45 each or best offer.
1 innovative marine reactor $45 or best offer.
1 media basket can be customized $45 or best offer.
1 magnetic led light refugium $45 or best offer.
All items are new condition with original box . Best offer accepted.
You must pick up items I will not ship. Local pick up or we can met.
Thank you!

Interested, I send a mail:
Hi,
I know you stated that you would not ship but I’ll give it a shot anyway.
I'm interested in the protein skimmer, reactor, and fuge light and I'm happy to pay your asking price of $135 on the 3 plus an additional $15 to cover a flat rate USPS priority box.
Hopefully I didn’t annoy you too much with asking.
Mark

And I get this odd response not 2 minutes later:
I guess if your willing to pay for the cost of shipping cuz I'm not Tryna pull extra expense out of my pocket to ship items you know... But yeah if your Tryna pay for shipping I can work something out for you I'll ask the post office estimate how much it will cost if you provide me with address and I'll ask post office if they can give me a confirmation recipes proof of delivery... But how will you send the money? And will be guaranteed? Cuz I don't want to be scammed either if I send items and never get the money for it...
Thank you
Cherish Espejo

So, I'm thinking this is a scam, but there is the potential of picking it up at a neutral meeting spot, so it may be legit but a bit weird.

So, I reply:
A large priority mail box at the post office is about $16 and it delivers in 2 days.
If you have a Paypal account I can pay that way. It guarantees you get payment and protects us both if there’s any problem. I can send $151 tonight for items and shipping. If you don’t have Paypal it probably wont work out as theres no protection for either of us and there’s no real safe way to get the money to you.

I get this a minute later:
I don't have a paypal account and if I make one how would I get the money from PayPal into my bank? I'm sorry I'm just precaution cuz I've been scammed before with online payments... Only other thing I can think of is deposit the money into my Bank of America if there's a local branch near you... I dunno... I just don't want to be scammed....

So, now that the 'I don't want to be scammed' has been used a number of times, and 'cuz' in in abundance, I figure this is most likely a scam. I send a final mail just in case this is a legit and confused person.

I reply:
No worries. I wont work outside Paypal for any online purchases. Best of luck with the sales. If you’re going to continue selling things online look into Paypal. You give them your bank number, they keep it private, then if anyone who sends a payment to you it goes straight into your Paypal account and you can simply transfer it into your bank account. Plus it provides protection for both the buyer and seller and will guarantee you get paid, or, if your scammed, will provide a refund.

Now here's the weird part. The last mail I get is this:

Oh, I've never had PayPal before... I'm not really tech savvy... I'm old fashion and I'm only able use email and post on Craigslist with help of friends. That's why I post local pick up for cash for that reason, sorry. I will ask a friend how to use PayPal and I will get back to you...
Thank you for inquiring to my post.

Keep in mind this entire conversation took place over about 6 minutes.
This confused the ^&%^ out of me for 2 reasons:
1) Why would a scammer look to sell such specific equipment. Its not got wide appeal nor is there tremendous profit from the scam, if it is a scam.
2) Go back and look at the initial ad, then read the first reply from the seller, then look at the last reply from the seller. Any sane person would bet its two different people, yet the tone, spelling, punctuation, etc all changes, on the fly, within minutes.

Obviously not making any purchase, just thought the whole tone of this odd and sharable for anyone bored enough to read it.
 

kschweer

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Something is definitely a little off there. And I would agree there's 2 different people responding.
 
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