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Taking drastic measures to rid hair algae

Tazmaniancowboy

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OK, so My fathers tank is OVERGROWN with hair algae. I have been trying to help him get rid of this problem for quite some time now by teaching him not to feed so much, replace 2-3 year old bulbs to which he couldn't understand..LOL, Phosban, more frequent maint, new ro/di filters and membrane, Etc etc, and hair algae is now coming out of the sand with a vengeance.

He and my brother started this 75g bow which is built into the living room entertainment wall unit about 10+ years ago and had a pretty big hair algae problem for the first 2 years, and I didn't think he would ever rid the system of it. I was not into reef/fishkeeping at the time so I didn't know anything except loved to sit and watch the beautiful fish for long periods of time. Miraculously the hair algae died out and he was algae free for about four years or so until he had a fire in the hand me down diy HO (T-12's?)installed 2 weeks earlier. The damage was luckily confined to the entertainment center, electronics,sooty carpet/ceiling and tank with no structural damage to the house. Miraculously all fish in the tank lived, but the tank was destroyed.

I am now finding out that when they switched out the tank They used not only the old sand from the tank, but also a five gallon bucket of old sand that had been sitting in the cold garage for months that had come out of an old saltwater tank that was broken down earlier. Needless to say he now has the biggest Hair algae farm I have ever seen and I have pretty much tried everything I could to no avail. I know that this bothers my father to sit and watch TV in a nice entertainment center that he custom built(radius and all) and to see his HAIRY fishtank directly beneath it and would like to end this problem Once and for all! Hopefully.

He is on vacation right now for 2 weeks, I would like to go over there in the next day or two and empty the entire tank. I will save approx 55 gallons of the water and house the 3 fish in an appropriate QT type tank while I work on the tank. I plan to suck all of the sand out and yank the live rock out. Clean out the sump Approx 20g to get any sediment/particles of HA that has made it in there over time. I will then place 60 lbs of araganite sand in and 20 pounds of the carib sea wet sand with bacteria on top(all they had left). I am going to replace the current liverock with rock that has been in a sump of an established system for a number of years. I also bought a bottle of Turbo start 900 bacteria which I have seen and heard good results with(I know usually controversial as it and other products being snake oil and if it really works or not.) I'm going to add the 55 of existing water back and any makeup water necessary to be at running level and add the Fritszyme turbostart. Then at the end of the day probably 2 hrs after everything has been added and running again I will re introduce the fish and say a prayer! LOL

Sorry for the long post and thank you for reading, but I thought a little background would answer some questions and explain why I am resorting to these drastic measures. Please let me know of any questions, suggestions, or concerns. I do appreciate any input and would like to surprise my parents when they come home to a "new" tank.

Taz
 
Taz,

Have you thought about using ultra-life hair algae remover? It's also a drastic step but I hear it does work. I do not know what other effects it might have though. Of course, if you like breaking down the tank...........you can do it the right way like you outlined.
 
If its that bad I would definitely pull all the live rock out and dry it out... However that of course takes time and it sounds like your trying to get this tank back up and running before he gets home... I dunno if your looking to spend any extra money but you could always get a good sized box of marco rocks so theres at least something in there when he gets back... And whenever the hair algae infested rock is dead you can throw that in... I dunno there could be an easier way to do this but this is what I would do... Hair algae in a PITA...
 
i would do what you were sayin, sounds bad. but i wouldnt dry out the rock...you'll really be starting over!! scrub the rock down to get some of the hair algae off. replace all like u said, and you could even poick up a lawnmower blenny. not the prettiest fish, but they will keep hair algae to an invisible thing!! they are funny as hell to watch too! i have one, and i dont evr see hair algae!!
 
Sounds like you have a good plan . If you have a place to keep the fish for a few days it might help them in case there are any spikes in water params . Besides that it should work fine . I would also add to your cleanup crew so the new rock doesnt start growing hair . It will be a bunch of work but your father will appreciate it and be able to enjoy his tank again .
 
jerzsky said:
i would do what you were sayin, sounds bad. but i wouldnt dry out the rock...you'll really be starting over!! scrub the rock down to get some of the hair algae off. replace all like u said, and you could even poick up a lawnmower blenny. not the prettiest fish, but they will keep hair algae to an invisible thing!! they are funny as hell to watch too! i have one, and i dont evr see hair algae!!

My lawnmower never eats hair algae. It loves diatoms though.
 
Suggestion, do not reuse old water, make all new water, and change again after a day when its all setup and running. That may take out the nitrates that are feeding the problem.
GregH
 
Do yourself a favor and don't put any sand back in the tank! If you do you will only be doing this all over again in a year or so. The only way to get that hair algae out of your rock is to cook it, and I don't mean with an oven. Search over on Reef Central for "Cooking".
 

Tazmaniancowboy

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Maybe I was unclear about the rock going back in. The rock that I take out of this tank is not going back into it. I will be exchanging it with different rock that has been in another system's sump for probably 7 years so it is full of life and I see no hair algae on it.

THEN the old rock will be cooked(not in the oven) LOL in its own tub in my basement(or my brother's) untilwe think it is clean and that will be quite some while. Knowing what My father's tank looks like, believe me this rock WILL NOT se a tank for a loooong time, if ever.

Taz
 

Tazmaniancowboy

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Whitebird1 said:
Suggestion, do not reuse old water, make all new water, and change again after a day when its all setup and running. That may take out the nitrates that are feeding the problem.
GregH

I'm afraid to do this being that I will be re-introducing the fish so soon after this major change. I am looking as this being equivelant to a 50% water change wich should leave me in real goog shape being that all of the tainted sand and rock will be out of the picture.

Taz
 
Paintman,why do you say not to put any sand back in or you will have the same problem in a year ? Just curious, I never heard of sand being a contributing factor for hair algae ,maybe I missed something . It just looks more natural with sand and the ability to have sand interacting fish and inverts is a nice option . Nothings as funny as watching jawfish steal "prized" rocks,shells from eachother .
 
OOOO ok n/m about what I said then.. I think everyone thought your plan was to throw the hair algae LR in the tank.... I didnt realize you were putting all new rock in..
 
Tazmaniancowboy said:
Whitebird1 said:
Suggestion, do not reuse old water, make all new water, and change again after a day when its all setup and running. That may take out the nitrates that are feeding the problem.
GregH

I'm afraid to do this being that I will be re-introducing the fish so soon after this major change. I am looking as this being equivelant to a 50% water change wich should leave me in real goog shape being that all of the tainted sand and rock will be out of the picture.

Taz

i agree, the old water will prob. contain some nitrates/phosphates and possibly spores from the HA. i personally would do all new water then drip acclimate the fish in.
when you put fish in to begin with they are introduced to all new water so i dont see an issue.
 
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