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12 foot long shallow reef build
- Thread starter Exarkun1178
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Yeah. Fish shop said same thing.
I suppose I'll mange a few weeks.
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I suppose I'll mange a few weeks.
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Understand it's hard but I would hits the breaks. You are treating for ich right now and when you add new fish stress will raise in the tank. Also you have some fish in your tank that will get large. It's time to just sit back and enjoy your tank.
There are only a handful of other fish I want.
Dwarf lion
Some sort of small reef friendly eel
Hippo tang
Achilles tang
Flame angel
Goby/ shrimp combo
A reef friendly trigger
Bicolor angel
A group of purple tangs
A few smaller fish
Maybe one or two other angels- something with color
I was told I can hold 40-50 fish. Thoughts?
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Well a good rule of thumb to go by is 1in of fish size per 2 gallon of water. With that said your 150g system could hold about 75 inches of fish.
Now that is just a rule of thumb and do with it what you feel is best for your tank.
I think 40 to 50 fish is pushing it but again I ran a heavy stock tank (about 10 fish in a 54).
Tangs need room to swim and same shape tangs tend to fight with each other. Noramly best to add all the tangs at once to help with their fighting.
If your looking for reef safe I would suggest staying away from the lion fish. They are sweet looking fish and I want one as well but do note they will eat what ever fits in their mouth (so small fish are on the menu for them)
If you want reef safe eels I would look at engering golbs. They look like eels but they don't jump but hang around in the sand. Def sweet fish to have.
Flame angels can be hit or miss with corals. I had one in my tank and loved him. He never bugged my corals but I have heard others with different stories.
Note triggers most likely will eat your snails/crabs
Again I'm just a stranger on the internet giving advice. Your best thing to do is research and make choices that best work for you. Advice from LFS can be helpful but do keep in mind they are running a business and bottom line are out to make money.
A tank your size I would keep some large fish (like 4 or 5 types of Tangs) and then a show fish (like your EMP angel). I then would look at tons of schooling fish like cardinals or chromies or anthems (I never kept these but I seen them in tanks and they look sweet)
It's possible if you had small fish, but you have some large pups in there so in your case imma say No.....
The fish will start to set their own territories in that tank....so fights would/will be bound to break out with more fish (if they haven't already)
For now, stick with what you got, keep em healthy n watch em grow
Right now. Only two fish seem to not get along, the sohal tang and sailfin tang. Been watching the sohal chase the sailfin across the tank all day. [emoji18]
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I picked up 30 sheets the other day... and I think my wife threw them out
Picked up more today. So going forward, yes.
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I see you have a lion fish and eel on your wish list. Note lions don't do well in copper, and eels are as good as dead in copper.
I would highly suggest that you set up a QT tank for any future additions. Lions and eels can be treated for ick using CP.
Please slow down.
I would highly suggest that you set up a QT tank for any future additions. Lions and eels can be treated for ick using CP.
Please slow down.
falconut
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You should really worry about your current fish and getting the tank cycled before adding anything else. Since your display is now escentially a hospital tank you really shouldn't be adding to it, otherwise you need to start your treatment cycle over with the new fish so they get the full time.
Sohal are notorious for being jerks from what I've read. I'm not sure what your plans are for nutrient export but if you do stock heavily you will need some serious filtration
OK wow, I hate to be the bad guy but you are getting some bad advice. NJTiger said 2 inches of fish, I on the other had have always considered 1 or 2 gallons per inch of fish for freshwater and 5 gallons per inch of saltwater. NJTiger isn't the bad advice FYI, his is not conservative so I wouldn't feel comfortable starting out at those levels. Your tank is green and isn't capable of handling that kind of load biologically. If you have been around like Paul B and your tank is more established than the Atlantic Ocean OK. Can you put 40 fish in your tank...well yeah if you have 40 nano sized fish. But your stocking now is 15 fish minimum of 65 inches already(that is probably on the low end a Sohal tang can get over a foot easy). Then lets look at what you are wanting to buy. You already have aggression in the tank. Adding 3 tangs and a group of purple tangs is ridicules. Angles don't get along and you want to add another? Then Trigger fish are not usually super friendly. And oh a Lion fish...might as well assume all your little fish are gone so that will help out with the stocking but not in a good way.
This is going to end in a disaster and an expensive one at that. Fish store wants to sell you fish, if it is ACC I would say something to John because your consultant is doing a crap job. As someone else pointed out you need a massive skimmer
Man I like your tank but your going way to fast. Plus your fish are going to suffer and I hate to see that too.
Sorry to be the jerk but you have some bad advice.
This is going to end in a disaster and an expensive one at that. Fish store wants to sell you fish, if it is ACC I would say something to John because your consultant is doing a crap job. As someone else pointed out you need a massive skimmer
Man I like your tank but your going way to fast. Plus your fish are going to suffer and I hate to see that too.
Sorry to be the jerk but you have some bad advice.
@JRWOHLER I just meant the rule of thumb I heard but the 1 to 2 in per 5 gallon is a great rule when starting out. I don't think I was clear but I didn't mean about adding 40 fish at once def got to build that bioload up also depending on the type of fish added (which I was trying to get at)
I understood what you meant to say. Unfortunately I am not sure Exarkun1178 was going to read it that way.
My whole post was to be the "bad parent" and do my best to slow/stop him from adding more fish.
By the way there are some very good places to read about fish.
www.liveaquaria.com
www.saltwaterfish.com
www.bluezooaquatics.com
www.fishbase.org
www.wetwebmedia.com
www.freshmarine.com
www.fishlore.com/saltwaterfish.htm
I can give you some more if you want but I have links at home.
I was told no more the. Three fish every three days.
But I understand the overriding message Too much too fast.
My water is stable right now and will continue to wait on new fish, and a water change
At this point I'll hold the tank to FO. Im no longer worried about corals.
I also think I'll get a new tank, one a bit taller and a few inches deeper.
144" x 24" by 18"
I'll likely stack the two and keep one as quarantine.
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Here for example is what I am getting at.
Sohal Tang (Acanthurus sohal)
Sohal Tang (Acanthurus sohal)
QUICK STATS
Minimum Tank Size: 250 gallons
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opupWindow('/product/refinement_definition.cfm?rid=2', 50, 50, 450, 400, 'scrollbars')']Care Level: Moderate
Temperament: Semi-aggressive
Reef Compatible: Yes
Water Conditions: 72-78° F, dKH 8-12, pH 8.1-8.4, sg 1.020-1.025
Max. Size: 1' 4"[/URL]
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This is poor advice ....you read it as so long as I add three fish every three days until I hit that 40 spot I am fine.
Your tank is going to slowly evolve. Yes this works to some degree but man it is driving me crazy. You went from brand new to heavily stocked using this rule. Your tank hasn't even cycled completely yet and this "consultant" is giving you the go ahead to keep adding fish willy nilly.