EXACTLY and from what i've seen they look very compact as in around 10 pr 12" which SHOULD fit under the Stand. None of my electronics will be under the stand so I can utilize that space however I want. I plan to have a small L shaped attachment off to the side that I can store some stuff in. I also plan to Paint a nice Piece of PlyWood or get some PlexiGlass to sit on TOP of my sump's Return section to make a shelf to sit a Coralife Calcium Reactor on.
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150G Same Size UpGrade
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EXACTLY and from what i've seen they look very compact as in around 10 pr 12" which SHOULD fit under the Stand. None of my electronics will be under the stand so I can utilize that space however I want. I plan to have a small L shaped attachment off to the side that I can store some stuff in. I also plan to Paint a nice Piece of PlyWood or get some PlexiGlass to sit on TOP of my sump's Return section to make a shelf to sit a Coralife Calcium Reactor on.
Good news, Bad News, Best News.
Good news is that my plumbing is all in and my sand was just added tonight.
My Manifold came out MAGNIFICENT
I ordered 125lbs of ReefRocks due to arrive Wedsnesday!!!!! (Extcited)
I added 90 Lbs *1 Grande 2 ReefFlakes of Tropic Eden to my tank and I am INSTANTLY SOLD on this sand.I will never go with another brand.
Bad News
I lost my magnificent Anemone to a Vortech. He Moved directly into it and committed suicide. My Apex Alarm went off but he was already cut up beyond help. I am severely heart broken.
I feared that he might have nuked the entire tank and since I had no reactors running I was prepared for an occurance such as this. I already had 2 NextReef MR1's ready. 1 Packed with Carbon and the other Phosban. I immediately reconfigured them to the HANG setting and they are running off the tank. I lost 1 Coral my Shades of Fall colony. Thank god Gonzapa has the mother colony an exact clone of mine and will be able to give me a new piece in due time. (I love my insurance plan.)
I found out I cannot use my Dart Pump. It is not the DART/SNAPPER Hybrid and it much too large and long. The Only way I could do it was to remove my sump and install a new smaller one. This was a theory but I need to get my tank going and this will unfortunately have to wait or not happen at all. I love my 40Gal breeder and Don't think I will change it. Not sure what I will do with the Dart Yet as I ordered a full rebuild kit and basically tore it down made it awesome again.
Without further Ado.. PICS!!
Good news is that my plumbing is all in and my sand was just added tonight.
My Manifold came out MAGNIFICENT
I ordered 125lbs of ReefRocks due to arrive Wedsnesday!!!!! (Extcited)
I added 90 Lbs *1 Grande 2 ReefFlakes of Tropic Eden to my tank and I am INSTANTLY SOLD on this sand.I will never go with another brand.
Bad News
I lost my magnificent Anemone to a Vortech. He Moved directly into it and committed suicide. My Apex Alarm went off but he was already cut up beyond help. I am severely heart broken.
I feared that he might have nuked the entire tank and since I had no reactors running I was prepared for an occurance such as this. I already had 2 NextReef MR1's ready. 1 Packed with Carbon and the other Phosban. I immediately reconfigured them to the HANG setting and they are running off the tank. I lost 1 Coral my Shades of Fall colony. Thank god Gonzapa has the mother colony an exact clone of mine and will be able to give me a new piece in due time. (I love my insurance plan.)
I found out I cannot use my Dart Pump. It is not the DART/SNAPPER Hybrid and it much too large and long. The Only way I could do it was to remove my sump and install a new smaller one. This was a theory but I need to get my tank going and this will unfortunately have to wait or not happen at all. I love my 40Gal breeder and Don't think I will change it. Not sure what I will do with the Dart Yet as I ordered a full rebuild kit and basically tore it down made it awesome again.
Without further Ado.. PICS!!
Well the Dart is TOO BIG.. Its almost 14" long and when you add in the plumbing needed from the sump to the dart its too tight in there. Plus my sump is drilled for 1". The Dart needs 2". Well Reeflo suggests not having the Suction end be smaller than the discharge end. Thus... I would need my suction end to be at least 1.5". The Dart is definitely a pump meant for a larger stand or an out of the stand experience. I am unable to provide either one at this time. I will have to sell the dart or keep it for a upgrade in the future. I'll probably end up selling it towards a calcium reactor.
@Spotter - this was another possibility. A Darn good one too! and suggested to me on the RC forums. Here's my biggest regret and therein lies my biggest problem.
At First I intended to custom build a stand. A Slightly larger than normal one with an area around the glass with almost enough space to place a cup or drink glass. The stand was to be L shaped with a Detachable L to place my Frag tank. This was the plan and I was all set to do it. After I priced out the wood and finishing materials and added in the Molding (easily costing MORE than ALL the wood needed to build the stand) it was ringing up to the tune of around 400 dollars. It would also mean I void my Marineland Perfecto Warranty by not using an approved stand. After pricing it out with Feng... I was able to obtain an approved stand from Marineland in the MAJESTY Series. 270 Bucks Delivered.
The Stand itself is awesome in finish. It looks great but it not the BEST thing on the market. The higher end stand from Marineland cost SIGNIFICANTLY more as in like double to 3x almost. It only cost me 25 dollars in wood to raise my stand 3" by building a riser box out of 2X4's and also Reinforcing the marineland stand with 2X4's. None of which voided my warranty for either (stand or tank). The Result was a lost off about 1" inside the stand. Not Dramatic but bleh. Compared to my oceanic's 150 stand this marineland is made of play doh'. However, the oceanic stand is not reusable due to holes in the side of it and the open back + the fact that my existing tank is sitting on it.
The tank is sitting with no water.. Plumbing is done but can be changed. Someone wanna help me build a new stand heh.
completed stand.
I would try to make it work with this stand because you still need to buy a new return pump unless you put a 2" bulkhead on your sump. When we spoke about the dart I had for sale I didnt realize that you already had a 1" drain in the sump. I had questioned reeflo about doing the same thing and they highly advise against doing that saying that the pump will not perform right. Take the money you would use on building a new stand to buy a new pump...blueline or iwaki. I am using a blueline 100 on my system and I have to turn it back because its too much flow. I sold my dart on rc and have a few names of people that might be interested in buying yours....only thing is you will have to ship it.
Shipping is fine. The pumps in great shape mostly due to PaulM's care. I currently have a Mag18 pump that I used on my other 150. It uses more power than the Dart and adds a small amount of heat but it works fine externally. I had Gonzapa bend some PVC pipe for me to reduce any 90 degree bend. All in All I think the Mag18 will do the job and if necessary I can source out a Iwaki that 12" and get crafty with the plumbing. I've even thought of elevating the Sump and placing the pump UNDER it. As long as the Mag18 powers my reactors and my return I should be alright.
The 1" outlet on the sump is the deal breaker.
Is your sump glass or acrylic? If it's acrylic drill it bigger! If it's glass plug it and drill another outlet at 2". Run a manifold like feed line. i.e. T out lateral T to pump with union & BV to Dart in all 2". It would be fine.
Then you can pump away!
Is your sump glass or acrylic? If it's acrylic drill it bigger! If it's glass plug it and drill another outlet at 2". Run a manifold like feed line. i.e. T out lateral T to pump with union & BV to Dart in all 2". It would be fine.
Then you can pump away!
The Vision
I hate rock wall fruit stands or rock piles. 2 Major reasons..
1. Detrius can build up to toxic levels where fish poop gathers under the rocks
2. It looks like a rock pile. No caves to swim thru and no overhangs or groves to sleep in.
MY fish are fatter and healthier when they have a place to sleep. I've witnessed aggression go from 1 billion to 0 just because more swim area and tunnels and caves and sleeping areas were introduced.
My Inspiration for my aquascape were 2 Fold. Roberto's Reef, and A few peninsula tanks. At first my wife (lead architectural aquascaper and does this look good, looker gooder @_@" and I tried the 2 Rock Islands deal. Stacking along we got it to about 15/16" before it becomes unstable. Using acrylic rods we got it Much higher as much as 30" but it did not look natural. Diving the reef I always see reef's pretty compact with tons of holes and over hangs. We went with the peninsula shape. Basically we went vertical about 23" filled out toward the glass leaving about 4/5" between Glass and Rock. In total we used 180lbs of Premium Reef Rock and 90lbs of Sand. 30 Lbs of ReefGrande and 2 Bags of ReefFlakes. I have another bag of ReefGrande in case I need more after water is added.
My Tank is filling.... you guys heard me WATER IS IN DA TANK!!!!!!!!!!!! (or at least filling)
I hate rock wall fruit stands or rock piles. 2 Major reasons..
1. Detrius can build up to toxic levels where fish poop gathers under the rocks
2. It looks like a rock pile. No caves to swim thru and no overhangs or groves to sleep in.
MY fish are fatter and healthier when they have a place to sleep. I've witnessed aggression go from 1 billion to 0 just because more swim area and tunnels and caves and sleeping areas were introduced.
My Inspiration for my aquascape were 2 Fold. Roberto's Reef, and A few peninsula tanks. At first my wife (lead architectural aquascaper and does this look good, looker gooder @_@" and I tried the 2 Rock Islands deal. Stacking along we got it to about 15/16" before it becomes unstable. Using acrylic rods we got it Much higher as much as 30" but it did not look natural. Diving the reef I always see reef's pretty compact with tons of holes and over hangs. We went with the peninsula shape. Basically we went vertical about 23" filled out toward the glass leaving about 4/5" between Glass and Rock. In total we used 180lbs of Premium Reef Rock and 90lbs of Sand. 30 Lbs of ReefGrande and 2 Bags of ReefFlakes. I have another bag of ReefGrande in case I need more after water is added.
My Tank is filling.... you guys heard me WATER IS IN DA TANK!!!!!!!!!!!! (or at least filling)
Lol...
Tank is Full...
Sump is Full..
Plumbing is Magnificent with no Leaks.
Micro Bubbles are Nil..
........I have no salt.LOL
D'oh!