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29gallon newbie
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sometimes a fish may feel more comfortable with reef fish that are mid-water zooplankton feeder types - (e.g. chromis/anthias) - since they look for those fish to be out and about before coming out. There's a term for these types of fish which eludes me right now.
However if that is not possible, I think if you just give it time to get used to the new surroundings - it'll be fine.
Long ago I had a female maroon clown and it was truly the boss of the tank- but it's eager anticipation of food would also prompt the other fish in the tank to come out unafraid. I'm not saying u go out and get a maroon - in your case - I say just be patient. Soon enough you'll be saying "what a pig!"
However if that is not possible, I think if you just give it time to get used to the new surroundings - it'll be fine.
Long ago I had a female maroon clown and it was truly the boss of the tank- but it's eager anticipation of food would also prompt the other fish in the tank to come out unafraid. I'm not saying u go out and get a maroon - in your case - I say just be patient. Soon enough you'll be saying "what a pig!"
Gramma's and Psudochromis tend to hide in the caves. The will come out to feed, and in the case of most Psudo's they will defend their hole. I believe Grammas will hide upside down in the cave. If you want an open water swimmer in that size tank I'd look at some of the Clowns. You can get nice morphs if you want to pay the $$$ for them.
im really not too concerned just yeti had read about their behavior prior to buying it, kinda cool actually howhe hangs in the cave, however i have also been thingking of adding a shrimp/ goby pair or a clown/anenome... altho i dunno if im ready fpr such a jump to anenome's.... thoughts?
just keep in mind an anemone is an animal and may decide to up and move a sting all the corals along the way. In larger tanks this is less of an issue- with a 29 u just have to realize this possibility (or it moving into a PH). Not sure what clown u r interested in or what anemone -but a couple folks on this board sell cloned rbtas...which would be a good start i think. Just be prepared to research and make sure your lights are appropriate and u can occasionally supplement by feeding silversides/shrimp.
He finally came out a little bit yesterday for a photo op, he has a particular cave he's staked out occasionally if u look in hard hes upside down or sideways in it, hopefully hell show himself off a lil more the colors are amazing, he took a few mysis shrimp yesterday at least that i noticed when i fed the tank, we'll see what happens today. The second pic is my GSP fully open
so after lots of reading i dont think the anemone is really a good idea... i think space wise i probably need more and maybe a more "seasoned" tank as well... so could anyone give me some suggestions on corals which may be more appropriate to add? so far ive come up with xenia, zoanthids (which im still a lil iffy on, to my understanding many are can become toxic to a system) mushrooms, leathers, kenya trees... anyway am i missing anything? im just not completely sure whats appropriate as far as aggressiveness and hardiness... but id like them also to be more interesting then your run of the mill mushrooms..
Frogspawn is a great coral to add to any tank. I love the way it sways in the flow. I've found them to be fairly hardy and a wonderful centerpiece. While not a FAST grower, it grows nicely but is easy to frag so that when it "outgrows" your space, you simply chop off the extra heads and sell them. Hydnophora is another very interesting and hardy addition to a tank. Being a fairly slow grower, it is also not going to take over your tank any time soon.
Hydno is very short polyped and when left with a little room to its edges has always been well behaved in my tank. IME, hydno is as delicate as it is deadly. I have a purple fungia that religiously goes after the hydno next to it. The hydno ALWAYS loses. My hydnos are all on separate rocks so that they can be moved/removed when they get into or cause trouble.
Frogspawns also need a bit of room, but it is easy to get a few inches of space around the heads (as they can stick into open water). Since they're easily fragged, you can always pluck out any offending heads. My frogs are dangerously close to many corals (they're all over my tank) and yet harm none.
Frogspawns also need a bit of room, but it is easy to get a few inches of space around the heads (as they can stick into open water). Since they're easily fragged, you can always pluck out any offending heads. My frogs are dangerously close to many corals (they're all over my tank) and yet harm none.
I think Phyl has given great advice.
I love my frogspawn, ironically I have a leather next to it. I have not had any problems...I have been watching for any problems but since the frag swap both have done well, I have been carefull to leave room between them though.
I have had some new mouths on the frog and the leather has grown, it is getting a little me a little concerned now. I sort of freaked out when the heads split on the frog but now I see two happy mouths so I can breath again.
My Pseudochromis has only jumped around when really freeked out...ie moving the tank. They are pretty similar and very hardy. I have had mine for atleast 3 years. Pig and a bully. You will be fine.
I have a rock anemone that is doing well. They are a bit more compact, you have the lights for whatever you like though. Just make sure your tank is realllllly stable because the bubble tips are a lot more delicate.
I love my frogspawn, ironically I have a leather next to it. I have not had any problems...I have been watching for any problems but since the frag swap both have done well, I have been carefull to leave room between them though.
I have had some new mouths on the frog and the leather has grown, it is getting a little me a little concerned now. I sort of freaked out when the heads split on the frog but now I see two happy mouths so I can breath again.
My Pseudochromis has only jumped around when really freeked out...ie moving the tank. They are pretty similar and very hardy. I have had mine for atleast 3 years. Pig and a bully. You will be fine.
I have a rock anemone that is doing well. They are a bit more compact, you have the lights for whatever you like though. Just make sure your tank is realllllly stable because the bubble tips are a lot more delicate.
timdmb said:
Man I again just want to give you a big time thumbs up...it's a rarity to find someone who is willing to forgo purchasing something...a lot of times we just keep researching until we get the facts that back up our pov.
Frogspawn - did you know Phyl gets a commission for everyone she gets to sell? yep - it's because they named the genus after her - Eu-Phyl-lia...
I'm totally joking. :
It's a great coral to have - albeit as mentioned it can sting other corals. Baxreefs in his tale of the tank has a video of his sending out sweeper tentacles - neat stuff. Interestingly enough you could put another coral of the same genus (like a hammer coral) and the two will coexist.
Frogspawn: Euphyllia divisa or paradivisa
Hammer: Euphyllia parancora
Anyways in case you are wondering they don't like to be right in front of a powerhead (been there done that and it almost blew the flesh off...). I don't think they need to be placed high in your tank either.
Let us know what you decide and be sure to post more pics!
thanks everyone for all the great input... i think i really like the idea of the hammer and the frogspawn.. again ill keep reading until i come to a decision and ill keep asking probably as i go along, ive found in my reading tho there tends to be occasionally conflicting views on some of the corals (maybe all due to the amount of experience of the writer and diferences in the aquarum which theyre being kept in) the more i look through soft corals the more i like the idea of keeping them altho i from what i see most people seem to be more interested int he lps and sps... but i think im not thoroughly prepared for the jump into that realm anyways. mike thanks for that snapshot i had always wondered how it looked... really nice, i cant even compare notes lol...