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Baking Alkalinity Solution
- Thread starter redfishbluefish
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Glad I checked first. So it will be 100% calcium chloride?
No. There will be some water associated with the calcium chloride and a pinch of "extraneous" stuff.
I'm looking up MSDS's right now........I'll be back momentarily.
Whew! All is well in Calcium Chloride Land!
I am confident the "new" Prestone Driveway Heat is the same Driveway Heat I've been using since 2008 or 9. I will provide detail.
I was at first bothered by the product discription the Driveway Heat link above provided....mentioning other stuff in there, were the bag I have only listed calcium chloride.
I looked up MSDS's....Material Safety Date Sheets....these must provide information about the specific chemicals that are in products. I actually looked up "old" MSDS sheets and newer sheets for Driveway Heat. At first you might say that the amounts shown are different. However, having authored MSDS's, the differences you think you are seeing are most likely just improvements in testing for the non-calcium chloride components. I am rather confident that the two MSDS are the same....that there has not been any change in the components of this product.
To further verify that the minimal quantities of potassium chloride, sodium chloride and calcium bromide are not an issue, I looked up the MSDS of the "standard" of calcium chloride...... DOW Flakes ....... to see if these compounds were present. Surprise, they are there in the same quantities as Driveway Heat.
I'm happy....I'm hoping you are too. Driveway Heat is a safe alternative for calcium chloride.
I am confident the "new" Prestone Driveway Heat is the same Driveway Heat I've been using since 2008 or 9. I will provide detail.
I was at first bothered by the product discription the Driveway Heat link above provided....mentioning other stuff in there, were the bag I have only listed calcium chloride.
I looked up MSDS's....Material Safety Date Sheets....these must provide information about the specific chemicals that are in products. I actually looked up "old" MSDS sheets and newer sheets for Driveway Heat. At first you might say that the amounts shown are different. However, having authored MSDS's, the differences you think you are seeing are most likely just improvements in testing for the non-calcium chloride components. I am rather confident that the two MSDS are the same....that there has not been any change in the components of this product.
To further verify that the minimal quantities of potassium chloride, sodium chloride and calcium bromide are not an issue, I looked up the MSDS of the "standard" of calcium chloride...... DOW Flakes ....... to see if these compounds were present. Surprise, they are there in the same quantities as Driveway Heat.
I'm happy....I'm hoping you are too. Driveway Heat is a safe alternative for calcium chloride.
Excellent. Thank you for doing the leg work and explaining everything. Now if it would stop snowing for one day, someone may actually have it in stock.
I would agree with Paul. While ultimately you will want pure calcium chloride, the percentage of those other chloride "cousins" is very minimal. At max, you're looking at around 6% total for all of them combined.
Also, it's important to note that natural saltwater (in the oceans) contains Sodium, Potassium, and Bromide already (and well, water also...but I don't think anyone was worried about that one
). So you won't be adding anything that isn't already in there by using this product.
Also, it's important to note that natural saltwater (in the oceans) contains Sodium, Potassium, and Bromide already (and well, water also...but I don't think anyone was worried about that one
). So you won't be adding anything that isn't already in there by using this product.
I cannot say with 100% assurance, but the likelihood is that this Vaprorizer is just fine. To the best of the knowledge there is one US producer of calcium chloride (and the world's largest producer I believe) and that is Occidental (also known as OXY or OxyChem). This information matches Occidental's MSDS's as well, who most likely supplies all the other ice melt retailers in the US. Note the bag does state "Product of the USA.".......it's Occidental's stuff.
Funny, I just logged on to find this thread and it was sitting at the top. Just popped a batch of baking soda in the oven.
Quoted so this post doesn't get lost.
HERE is Randy's answer.
I think Randy is just covering his A... with this response since he hasn't analyses the stuff. I will also tell you that others have been using this product and other pool products in their tanks for years with success. Here's my pea-brain thought on this matter. Comparing the two sources....either a driveway ice melt product or a hardener for your pool.....you would think that if any of these would be "dirty," it would be the ice melt product....who cares. The pool product is up against peoples skin, in their mouths, etc, and therefore you would expect it to be relatively clean. JMTC
Go over to RC and search HTH or pool chemicals and see what you find.
I think Randy is just covering his A... with this response since he hasn't analyses the stuff. I will also tell you that others have been using this product and other pool products in their tanks for years with success. Here's my pea-brain thought on this matter. Comparing the two sources....either a driveway ice melt product or a hardener for your pool.....you would think that if any of these would be "dirty," it would be the ice melt product....who cares. The pool product is up against peoples skin, in their mouths, etc, and therefore you would expect it to be relatively clean. JMTC
Go over to RC and search HTH or pool chemicals and see what you find.
Funny, I just logged on to find this thread and it was sitting at the top. Just popped a batch of baking soda in the oven.
Honey, what's for dinner tonight?
Looks delicious.
Now if you don’t mix right away, like I did with the second one, a “cake” will form on the bottom. That’s OK. Just start shaking and break up the cake. It will now take a few hours for this to go into solution, but no damage done.
Next time I'll follow these instructions a bit closer. I didn't get a "cake" as much as I got a big "rock". I smashed the rock up with a long baster and shook the container. Today, I have a clear solution.
Next time I'll follow these instructions a bit closer. I didn't get a "cake" as much as I got a big "rock". I smashed the rock up with a long baster and shook the container. Today, I have a clear solution.
Justin, you'll be just fine. If you're not shaking/mixing while your adding the powder, it will cake up. But that still is not a problem. Shake it a couple times to break it up and it will eventually go into solution. I'm willing to bet by tomorrow it is all dissolved.
Thanks Paul.
I probably should have added a little bit at a time and shook in between instead of adding it all at once then shaking. Ill see how it is tomorrow.