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[paintman27]

No fusion will always be free. Everything is in the cloud now so no one would pay for that service. Everything is made in south east Asia including the phone you have in your hand.
The reason why people use the cor is that when the apex goes down. I get a notification. If my pump isn’t running. I get a notification. So for a lot of people that’s better than a return turn pump that goes bad and you get no notification..

Valid point but..........what happens if you lose your phone or it runs out of charge. Or your in a meeting and you can't look at your e-mails. Are you the guy going down the road at 65mph looking at your tanks parameters? I hope not. But still what happens when that little grey box takes a dump and doesn't notify you? We can play the what if game all day long.

I look at some of the pics of peoples tanks and there all proud of their fancy controllers and all their blinky blinky stuff. They all brag about how they can be alerted when they have a leak or their PH jumps from 8.1 to 8.2. Then I look at rats nest of shody wiring directly under the sump and think the local fire marshall would put a cease occupancy on their home because of the fire hazard. Most people are clueless what fire hazards they have under their tanks. Especially the diy algae scrubbers! But I guess they will get an Apex alert when their house is burning to the ground.

As far as this illustrious cloud......... What happens when the cloud and WiFi is taken out? Over the last 14 months we have seen what lengths a certain country is willing to do if you don't play by their rules. What happens when not if someone out how to take the cloud down? You think it can't happen? Then you have nothing that works. I wouldn't trust anything running with little micro processors. Hell we bought a brand new Sony 48" tv last year and we have had it replaced 3 times now because the mother boards keep burning out.

For this reason I am running a Cor20 with a brand new one sitting on my shelf as a back up. Not only that I have my sump plumbed so i can hook up my bullet proof Iwaki in 5 minutes. It only has3 moving parts

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against new technology, I'm just saying I think we are becomming a society to reliant on automation and at some point it's going to bite us all in the ass. HARD!

 

[amado]

I personally think technology is great.
The apex is a controller. So it allows you to do something about it even when I am not home.

The heart beat in apex is one of those things that will alert me if something goes bad. I could setup what apex does when my return pump dies. It will shut off the heater/skimmers. I have a leak detector so if my tank leaks I would get a alert. I have a wide angle camera that will show me what’s going on. I can power anything off or on depending on what’s going on. The information for the apex is not located in the house. Like I said before it sits in the cloud. So I can log on to my account and see what happened. Even when my apex has no power.
My phone battery last all day.l have a iPad/watch/laptop
That all get the same messages. So even if I leave my phone at home or in the car my watch gets all my messages.

I am a realtor and missing a call can cost me money so I am always with my phone.

My house also has nest smoke detectors so I will get a text if there is smoke in the fish room.

 

[Foxchase]

Valid point but..........what happens if you lose your phone or it runs out of charge. Or your in a meeting and you can't look at your e-mails. Are you the guy going down the road at 65mph looking at your tanks parameters? I hope not. But still what happens when that little grey box takes a dump and doesn't notify you? We can play the what if game all day long.

I look at some of the pics of peoples tanks and there all proud of their fancy controllers and all their blinky blinky stuff. They all brag about how they can be alerted when they have a leak or their PH jumps from 8.1 to 8.2. Then I look at rats nest of shody wiring directly under the sump and think the local fire marshall would put a cease occupancy on their home because of the fire hazard. Most people are clueless what fire hazards they have under their tanks. Especially the diy algae scrubbers! But I guess they will get an Apex alert when their house is burning to the ground.

As far as this illustrious cloud......... What happens when the cloud and WiFi is taken out? Over the last 14 months we have seen what lengths a certain country is willing to do if you don't play by their rules. What happens when not if someone out how to take the cloud down? You think it can't happen? Then you have nothing that works. I wouldn't trust anything running with little micro processors. Hell we bought a brand new Sony 48" tv last year and we have had it replaced 3 times now because the mother boards keep burning out.

For this reason I am running a Cor20 with a brand new one sitting on my shelf as a back up. Not only that I have my sump plumbed so i can hook up my bullet proof Iwaki in 5 minutes. It only has3 moving parts

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against new technology, I'm just saying I think we are becomming a society to reliant on automation and at some point it's going to bite us all in the ass. HARD!

That's some pretty hard core conspiracy theory. As a society, throughout history, technology is what has help keep us moving forward. Idk about you but i much prefer sending a text to someone over sending a guy on horseback to deliver a letter. If done right, automation is great. Makes life easier and let's people enjoy and explore a different part of the hobby. I don't have a controller bc i can't afford one but i certainly see the advantage in being able to monitor your tank when you're away. Even if by your standards, the controller only notifies you 3% of the time correctly about something going wrong then that's a 3% increase in security over not having anything at all and then coming home to an absolute disaster.

 

[DEL]

when I first moved to edison, I put all my corals in a spare tank and didn't plug in my apex. since it was a new house, I didn't think the basement would get cold, so I didn't plug my heater either (it was july). came back the next day and everything was dead. if I setup my apex I would've got alerted that my temp was dropping, and I could've saved everything. so now I basically have everything running on auto and being monitored. I even have cameras facing my tanks just so I can check on my tank when I'm away. when you drop THOUSANDS on livestock, you better make sure you are alerted right away, this way you have a better chance to save something before it gets worse. oh yea, leak detectors in case any water spills on the floor, which in turn shuts off my return pump until I can figure out the issue.