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Help Please (Wood cutting)

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sinkingbeach

I am having the most difficult time making this cut and at $6 a foot it's starting to cost me :mad: The molding protrudes from the stand at an angle so that at the top it attaches to the stand and the bottom is 3 inches free standing any assistance is greatly appreciated.

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billyr98

are you using a regular miter saw or compound miter saw? using a compound miter saw, you should be able to find the degrees to set the saw and bang its done.. MikeM should be able to help here better, but thats what i do..
 
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PaulM

If it is a compound miter I think you need to set the angle to 22.5* and 45* It has been a while could be wrong.
 
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sinkingbeach

Unfortunately it's not a compound miter saw, I think I'm going to have to run to Carol's father's house tonight and grovel to make the cut for me.
 
mikem

mikem

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Francis, there are 3 important things to measure before you attempt to do crown molding. (1) Measure the angle that you want your molding to fit. Most people don't have the exact tools to measure this. We all use a 45 degree square. That doesn't mean that your stand is exactly on a 90 degree angle. I know, it's supposed to be. If your saw blade or saw is off slightly. You won't get a 90. If something is off slightly on a 6inch angle square, it could be off an inch on 4 foot. You wouldn't be able to see this without a special square.
(2) You have to know the slope of the molding where it sits against the ceiling.
(3) You have to know or have the means to measure the slope of the molding where it sits against the wall.
If you don't have a way to measure these things or live too far away to borrow my True Angle Square. You will have to buy your crown molding longer and keep practicing your cuts before you try cutting on your finished piece.

Heres an angle chart if you know what the angle of your stand truly is.



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mikem

mikem

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If the slope on your molding was both 45 degrees (which I've never found any that were) then you can cut the crown on a 45 and it would be close. So whats throwing you off here is the slope which opens either the top or bottom of your cut.

Most standard slopes are 52 degrees sitting against the ceiling and 38degrees sitting against the wall.

Hope this helps for the next time.
 
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sinkingbeach

Thanks Mike, unfortunately he didn't have the time to assist me but suggested I get corner blocks which would make the cut unnecessary so that is the direction I'm heading. Had to special order them, so the stand will be unfinished when until I get them, I intend to stain anyway then stain them separately when they come in.
 
mikem

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If you can get an SKU #, I can check my Home Depot. The one in Hazlet is supposed to be the best stocked store in NJ.since theres so many builders in that area. Good idea with the blocks. If I had the time, I'de make them for you.
 
mikem

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Do you know the height of thr corner?
The Fara site shows them at 5 3/4. Is that the same kind you need?
 
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doswari

Hey Francis,

I've never installed crown molding, but I've read up on it as one of my to do projects in the future. There's a way of avoiding all the angles on the table by using a jig to hold the molding in place. You could probably use a couple clamps and a board to make your own rig. The trick is to set the molding on the saw just as it would fit into the corner of the ceiling-floor. The only drawback is if it's a large molding, you'll need a large saw blade. Here's a link that shows how to do it.

http://www.allwoodwork.com/article/woodwork/crown_molding_made_easy.htm

Good luck,
Dan
 
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