Herbie overflow in Reef Ready system

[jgraz]

So who has done this. The splashing into the sump and the constant bubbles are driving me crazy. Been reading alot about this and Herbie seems the way to go.
I'll come up over the rim for return. But I have to now do this with tank in place.
Looking for some first hand and close by knowledge
Thanks in advance


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[Mrx7899x]

Buy a good gate valve and make sure the emergency stand pipe is a least 6 inches taller then the drain and put the drains in the sump just under the water surface.

 

[jgraz]

Buy a good gate valve and make sure the emergency stand pipe is a least 6 inches taller then the drain and put the drains in the sump just under the water surface.

Do you have you set up this way.
That seems to be the consensus on set up.

My biggest question is about the pump.
I am using a DC on a manifold. Should I expect and changes when I'm more or less items at any given time?
For example, if I have both reactors running and everything is going well, can I expect a problem when I shut down the reactors?

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[ecam]

Agreed. I did this on my 80 gallon.

The emergency pipe goes right to the weirs of the overflow box. The main drain is 6” or so below that. (Play with that ). The key is for the emergency drain not to be try but to take a small trickle of water in. If u don’t the cascade over to the lower pipe will be torture.

For this I would buy a spears gate valve or similar cause u have to be able to make minute adjustments

 

[ecam]

Do you have you set up this way.
That seems to be the consensus on set up.

My biggest question is about the pump.
I am using a DC on a manifold. Should I expect and changes when I'm more or less items at any given time?
For example, if I have both reactors running and everything is going well, can I expect a problem when I shut down the reactors?

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John anything you adjust the speed on pump you will have to tweak valve.


The pain with this setup with a manifold is when the gfo or biopellet start to clog. It will put more water into return which will make u make adjustments.

So I know have notes to remind to check the manifold before I tweak the gate valve

 

[jgraz]

John anything you adjust the speed on pump you will have to tweak valve.


The pain with this setup with a manifold is when the gfo or biopellet start to clog. It will put more water into return which will make u make adjustments.

So I know have notes to remind to check the manifold before I tweak the gate valve

Ok that's good to know. I dont usually run carbon/gfo all the time, and I'm still on fence whether I'm going with pellets.
I'll probably go with what I have and worst case I'll go to a dedicated pump.

A dedicated pump on the other hand may be easier to set up for return since I have limited room and pulling tank away from the wall is not an option anymore.

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[Mrx7899x]

I ran a dc pumps on mine for a little over a year and went back to an ac pump. The dc pumps had an issue keeping a constant water level in the overflow it would drop after a while. Haven't had a problem since going back to a ac pump.

 

[jgraz]

So what's the purpose of having a trickle going into the emergency drain?
If the top of that above the waterline in overflow area wouldn't that lessen the chance that anything can get in and potentially block before it's even used/needed?

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[jgraz]

I ran a dc pumps on mine for a little over a year and went back to an ac pump. The dc pumps had an issue keeping a constant water level in the overflow it would drop after a while. Haven't had a problem since going back to a ac pump.

I have a feeling I'm gonna end up there too.
But for now and for my wallets sake I'm gonna stick with it and the manifold. I dont mind playing here and there to keep it right, but I'm sure I'll end up at the same end point as you

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[ecam]

John if you set the main one six inches below the weirs. The water will be crashing down six inches. That will be worst that the bubbling and the running water will make u need to pee quite often.

The trickle over the emergency drain which is set right under weir is to silence it completely

 

[ecam]

 

[ecam]

Pm me over your number and I can send you a video. It’s dead quiet.

 

[jgraz]

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Edwin
What is that tube you have coming out?
I think I still have your number I'll shoot you a text

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[ecam]

Tube is for my kh guardian. Alk monitor.

 

[jgraz]

Tube is for my kh guardian. Alk monitor.

Thx
I send you a text to number I have. Not sure if its still good. Also pm'ed you my number

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[njtiger24 aquariums]

what are you looking to achive? I mean the Herbie is a good drain system (by what I hear I never ran one myself) but if your main issue is the splashing/bubble into your sump then it sounds like your drain pipe needs to be longer. The drain pipe should go below the water level of your sump and you will not have spalshing/bubbles. Now if you are looking for the added beneift the Herbie gives you, to help prevent an overflow with the emernagy drain, then that is a way to go but again if the drain pipe is not below the sump water level you will still have splashing/bubbles in the sump

 

[ecam]

@njtiger24 aquariums great point.

Assumed that was handled. But re-reading that a good idea to make sure the pipe is sufficiently submerged. I have mine pretty much toward the bottom. So that the bubble break before the surface

 

[jgraz]

what are you looking to achive? I mean the Herbie is a good drain system (by what I hear I never ran one myself) but if your main issue is the splashing/bubble into your sump then it sounds like your drain pipe needs to be longer. The drain pipe should go below the water level of your sump and you will not have spalshing/bubbles. Now if you are looking for the added beneift the Herbie gives you, to help prevent an overflow with the emernagy drain, then that is a way to go but again if the drain pipe is not below the sump water level you will still have splashing/bubbles in the sump

Right now my drain terminates just below waterline. I have one a little deeper by about 3-4" and still had same problem. For the time being, I will add a little more to bring it down again. It's a 12" deep section so I have a bit of room to go.

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