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Hippo with ICH

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reseter5 said:
Ich is naturally found in the wild. Downside is now its in your tank. There life cycle is somewere around 6 weeks. I had to take all my fish out once to quarantine and let the tank side for 2 months with no fish. Since then I now keep a quarantine tank that's coppered with no problems. Always tangs due to the lack of scales. But when ich is isolated to an aqaurium it multiplies rapidly unlike the ocean full of water. Good luck

Very true
 
Interesting that Chuck is a hyposalinity guy and Joe is copper guy.
Both were good reads though Chuck had some additional links that were very good.
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That said I go the Chuck route always. PITA yes but oh well. I do drop the salinity slower then he suggests but don't think that is a problem just difference in process.
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Commonality is get all fish into QT, treat them copper or hyposanity for 4 weeks, and 6 weeks later put fish back into DT.

Still not sold 100% on cleaner diet but IMO just a good debate as I am not counting on them doing anything but what is suggested.

Thanks for the links BTW.
 
Rbu1 said:
Very interesting Brandon,

If you knew the yellow tangs had ich why did you act surprised when I told you he had it.....Nice!!!!!!

because it had been 5 months or so when the hippos got the white spots witch i will consider ICH and nothing else ever showed any signs. The Sailfin i had the longest and never had a spot or anything. These spots on the hippos where huge compared to the tiny specs most people post pictures of Ich. Not to mention i looked at the yellow tangs very closley when they left the big tank and then where sold. btw.. Still alive ?
 
Ok so I got a 10g all setup. Lack of space limits me to what i can get. Heater and powerhead in there. I'm not sure if I should add my hob or not. Only because ill be doing waterchanges. I put a ball of cheato in the tank as well. Tomorrow I will acclimate him once more into this tank. This added stress will definitely make it worse, but I believe its good in the longrun
 
ds4x4 said:
Rbu1 said:
Very interesting Brandon,

If you knew the yellow tangs had ich why did you act surprised when I told you he had it.....Nice!!!!!!

because it had been 5 months or so when the hippos got the white spots witch i will consider ICH and nothing else ever showed any signs. The Sailfin i had the longest and never had a spot or anything. These spots on the hippos where huge compared to the tiny specs most people post pictures of Ich. Not to mention i looked at the yellow tangs very closley when they left the big tank and then where sold. btw.. Still alive ?
Yes Still alive...
 
killab443 said:
Ok so I got a 10g all setup. Lack of space limits me to what i can get. Heater and powerhead in there. I'm not sure if I should add my hob or not. Only because ill be doing waterchanges. I put a ball of cheato in the tank as well. Tomorrow I will acclimate him once more into this tank. This added stress will definitely make it worse, but I believe its good in the longrun

OK Yes you should add a hang on filter with some sort of biological piece to it. I would NOT put the hippo in the 10 gallon until you are sure the cycle is over. You will not be able to control ammonia with water changes. If you care about saving this fish leave him in the main tank hopefully he is still eating, get the 10 gallon running and cycled then move him over. If you don't treat all your fish and leave your main tank fallow as soon as you put him back he will get ich again.
 
Shouldn't I wait treat all the fish till they show signs of it? He was in the tank for less then 24hrs. Is it possible for it to be present in the tank even after 6weeks and all fish not showing any signs? Also I was considering sacrificing some live sand and putting it into the QT to give bio filtration any insight?
 
killab443 said:
Shouldn't I wait treat all the fish till they show signs of it? He was in the tank for less then 24hrs. Is it possible for it to be present in the tank even after 6weeks and all fish not showing any signs? Also I was considering sacrificing some live sand and putting it into the QT to give bio filtration any insight?

There will not be enough biological filtration in the sand to help. Every fish in your main tank would need to be treated even if they are not showing signs. When ich is introduced to your main tank it will be present all the time. When a new fish is added or stress sets in the ich will take hold and can wipe out your tank. As I stated before to do it right you need to remove all the fish from your main tank and treat them all leaving your main tank without fish for 12 weeks. Ich can be present but not visible to you. It can live in the gills and you will never see it.

Is the hippo still eating in the main tank?
 
I didn't listen to any of the advice given... are u serious?? Reread the posts. 4th post says that I QT'd him. Which was before you even posted in this thread. I appreciate you trying to help. As you can see in this thread alone there is plenty of different advice when it comes to this issue. Don't take it personal if I didn't take your advice...I don't have a time machine.

The advice I will be using is to treat him with copper. QT him for 6 weeks total. Keep temp in the QT at 81 degrees. keeping this QT tank running for future new fish. Also have been dosing the the food for the display tank and his QT tank with garlic extract. To make them eat more which inturn helps with immunity. I will be performing daily waterchanges on the qt tank adding copper that has been taken out into the new water.

I would have to set fish traps and or destroy my rockwork to get most of my fish out of the tank. This is why I chose to QT him alone. If he gets it again in 6 weeks when he's re added I'll know where I stand. You nor I can be 100percent sure that other fish have it. Like I said I appreciate the advice but I can only do so much here.

Now with all this being said do u think I can add LR from my fuge to this tank for filtration. It would be for this tank and stay in this tank. I understand once treated with copper it shouldn't be used again in a reef tank. I'm just looking to jumpstart this tank and add a HOB and avoid a cycle.
 
well i can say that i have seen the wrasse and gobies picking spots off the hippos when we made the move to the 120. now if they were spitting them out or not i can't say
 

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Don't add live rock or live sand to the QT. Add some pvc pipes or other things that are not going to be able to harbor ich and are easy to clean. For filtration you can use a simple HOB filter, will provide filtration and can house the bacteria.
 
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