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How is the sea like our tank?

Paul B

NJRC Member
Every time I dive I think of all the ways I can make my tank more like the sea I get overwhelmed.

First of all the sea is deep. Our animals know that they are in very shallow water and they would never venture into such shallow water if they had a choice. At the waters edge and in tide pools we find only tiny baby fish, you never find a full grown tang in water 2 feet deep.

The sea is full of plankton and baby fish, they are all over the place and fish never go hungry. Fish eat all day long and almost never get enough in one meal to fill them. Their intestines are very short and are designed to process a little food continousely.
Carnivores eat fresh "whole" fish.
Herbivores eat "mostly" fresh algae, but the algae in the sea is also full of pods, worms, shrimp and fish fry.

The sea is full of danger which gives the animals plenty of exercize. They are constantly fighting for food or escaping preditors. They are never just hanging out looking out the glass

:rolleyes:
The sea is constantly in motion, back and fourth motion, sometimes much more motion than we could ever provide in a tank. I have seen 12' brain corals toppled over after a storm. The same storm that deposited 30' sailboats up the side of a mountain.
These storms break off weak pieces of coral and make room for more. They also sweep debris out of coral pores. Corals can deal with storms by just closing and without storms, corals would be covered with detritus.

The sun does not instantly shine or go out as it does in most of our tanks, it also does not shine every day. Sometimes days go by with hardly any light.

Lightning hits the sea every few seconds. I don't know if that helps or hurts.

And the sea has every element on earth disolved into it as well as all the strains of bacteria. Some good, others not so good.

Of all of these things there are only a few we have control of.
I think we do a fairly good job but these factors are the reason some people have huge problems. We can't make up for the shallow water by providing more light but we can feed better, add bacteria from the sea, try better circulation, stir things up occasionally and know our limitations.

We can't always keep everything. But we try to keep the things we think we can keep.
Have a great day.
Paul ;D
 

Paul B

NJRC Member
See all of the tiny fry to the left of the nurse shark? They are all over the place on a healthy reef. This is what fish snack on all day. Whole, fresh fish, guts, skeleton and all.
From the Cayman Islands
Nurse_Shark.jpg
 
that's deep paul---and its all true---i always wanted to stay with smaller fish in a big tank to try to mimic the ocean----
it would be a big undertaking to even try to mimic a ' true ' ocean setup ---can you imagine what that setup would look like and the time you would have to spend on it each day---
your right bout the lights---why has'nt a light company come out with a type of light that turns lights off a few at a time, instead of all at once...
and a pump that has settings on it that you can set to ' calm waters' or ' storm waters '
 
they have a pump for that but its expensive lol i took some great pictures at 20feet snorkling of all the fry and small fish swimming at the edge of the reef and in longspine urchin spines..
 
whats the name of that pump---would be interesting to check it out---
you would need a large tank to be able to ' try' to reproduce a ' true' ocean setting in a tank
 

Paul B

NJRC Member
To change the water flow, you can just connect a few pumps to timers.
I create typhoons every month or so with my diatom filter. I stir everything up. the fish love it.
 
hurtback said:
that's deep paul---and its all true---i always wanted to stay with smaller fish in a big tank to try to mimic the ocean----
it would be a big undertaking to even try to mimic a ' true ' ocean setup ---can you imagine what that setup would look like and the time you would have to spend on it each day---
your right bout the lights---why has'nt a light company come out with a type of light that turns lights off a few at a time, instead of all at once...
and a pump that has settings on it that you can set to ' calm waters' or ' storm waters '

The PFO (now defunct) Solaris LED has progamming that allowed for cloudy days etc.

The Tunze Controller has a setting for wave / pulse action - but also "storm action" whereby all pumps are activated.

Even so these features do not truly mimic the ocean as we all know.
 
maybe we as a club should all combine resourses to build a 343,423,668,428,484,681,262 gallon tank.... (that's the # of gallons in the ocean
 
is that with or without LR? ;D

oh i forgot to mention - if we really want to mimic say Jersey Shore - we should drop in a gallon of suntan lotion. :p :eek:

Speaking of which - Paul B (or anyone)- is sunscreen really that bad for the reef environment?
 

Paul B

NJRC Member
][/quote] is sunscreen really that bad for the reef environment?[/quote]

I hope not, I lay in the water all week long with the stuff all over me :p
 

JohnS_323

Officer Emeritus
Officer Emeritus
REEFLECTIONS said:
maybe we as a club should all combine resourses to build a 343,423,668,428,484,681,262 gallon tank.... (that's the # of gallons in the ocean

I think if we can get someone to print us a life size drawing of the world's oceans we'd be able to start construction.
 
And what kind of skimmer would be suitable? Koralia's won't be suitable for this sized tank. May be Tunze or Vortec can move enough water around.
 

Paul B

NJRC Member
I use RO water for top offs and usually ASW for changes but I add about 50 gallons of NSW every year. I would use 100% NSW if it were not so heavy. I really don't like ASW and would not use it if I didn't have to.
I only change about 20% of my water maybe five times a year.
I do add bacteria in the form of mud all the time along with pods and other things from the sea.
 
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