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I’m Switching Teams

redfishbluefish

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I’ve reached the end of the rope……I’m switching teams. Since the inception I’ve been a Reef Crystal user. I came to believe that your choice of salt was like your choice of spaghetti sauce….whatever you were brought up on is what you liked. Well I guess that is not true, because I’ve had it with RC.

Back when I switched to LEDs, I had just started a new box of RC. At the time I didn’t pay much attention, but it took longer to dissolve and the bag was a light yellow color. Anyway what ended up happening is that a couple corals (that I had for a long time) started to die, and a few weren’t looking to good. Since I had just switched to LEDs, I blamed it on the lights. Time past and I opened my next box of salt….this stuff dissolved immediately, was really small grain, and the bags were as clear as glass. That’s when it hit me that I had a bad batch of salt. The “bad” stuff was clumpy (larger grain) and very slow to dissolve. At this point even the “weed” corals, like orange and purple cap weren’t looking good. I did a large water change and after about a month all the bad looking corals started looking good again. This reinforced the idea that I had a bad batch of salt.

So more time passes and I can’t seem to get my calcium number down. I start slowly turning down my dosing pump for calc, until eventually I had it totally turned off…..only dosing alk. My calc numbers were still over 500. At this point I tested a fresh batch of saltwater and find that it is well over 500 for calc as well.

No more story……bottom line is that I’m going to switch to plain old Instant Ocean and dose the stuff I want to put in the water. I was never crazy about the clay fillers and “vitamins” that were in RC anyway, and this way I’ll know what is going in my tank. I also figure I’ll be able to control my alk, calc and mag better. (And finally, part of my reasoning is that the God of Reef Chemistry, Dr. Randy Holmes-Farley, is also an IO user…..and if it’s good enough for Randy, it’s good enough for me.)
 
So many people for so long have been telling me to switch to a real reef salt. I've only ever tried reef crystals and Red Sea pro. I liked both but nothing at all beats regular cheap as all hell instant ocean. I buffer my own supplements it mixes clear as glass and I've never had an issue with it.

Regular plain Jane instant ocean for me!!
 
Reef crystals starts life as Instant Ocean, they are both made in the same factory sided by side, they just add the elements to IO and sell it as Rac.
 
I just bought a 200 gallon box of instant ocean, making the switch also, what do you think you will have to dose besides the main 3?
Thanks
Kurtis
 

redfishbluefish

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Picked up my 300 pounds of salt today. Thanks again to AO and James (and Darren for agreeing to my little outlandish, harebrained request.) These 300 pounds are two boxes of RC and three boxes of IO. I’m going to slowly switch to IO.


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I change 15 gallons a week, which takes a little more than 9 cups of salt. So I think I’ll start with six cups RC to 3 cups IO for a while.

As far as additives, definitely the troika of alk, calc and mag. I’m sure I’ll have to start playing with levels, since IO has less of the three additives. But this is one of the reasons I’m switching…..RC has been rocking over 500 calc, where I’ve actually turned off my calc dosing pump. As far as “trace” stuff, I’m going to wait and see. I really don’t like adding stuff that I can’t test for. But I also believe IO contains some trace stuff.
 

redfishbluefish

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I used to dose strontium and iodine as well.

9 cups of salt for 15g seems like a lot.

For RC, it takes ca 3 cups per five gallons to get to 1.026. Maybe it is all the clay fillers and vitamins! And I can assure you that the refractometer is properly calibrated.

Thanks for the heads-up on strontium and iodine.
 

TanksNStuff

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Sorry Paul, it's late and my brain isn't working 100% right now... so I can't provide a link at the moment... but I remember reading somewhere that all salt mixes will contain a certain amount of the "trace elements" because they are naturally contained in the main chemicals that are used to make these marine salt mixes. Strontium, iodide, bromide, potassium, zinc, manganese, etc. are all found in the sources they use for calcium and magnesium... the main ingredients in a salt mix. Some of the "trace elements" are not even added separately by them due to the fact that it's already inherently included.

I guess it's the amount of each trace element that can vary from one brand to the next due to their sources being used and any pure additives that some brands will add on top of what's naturally in the other stuff.

I also agree with you that it's not a good idea to add anything that I can't test for because that's just asking for trouble. I think adding small amounts of iodide and strontium occasionally won't hurt as long as you don't get too crazy with it and if you have corals that you know will use those elements to grow.

One other note - The type of corals you keep (and how many) will dictate how much of each element that is consumed by the corals. For instance, a plethora of stony corals will use up more calcium than a tank that has mostly softy's... which will likely use up more iodide. So each tank is different and therefore some are happier with one salt mix while others will be happier with others due to the differences in elements in each brand. I'm sure you were aware of this, but I thought I'd point it out for others who may not have known. ;)
 

TanksNStuff

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Yea, I was thinking that was a bit much too. I only use a lil less than a 1/2 cup per gallon or around 7 cups for 15g. So your are adding about 2 cups of fillers per 15g? :eek:
 
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