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My attempt at kalk dosing has resulted in a messy ATO reservoir. I only used half tea spoon per gallon. Any suggestions? Tips?

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I use kalk, what brand ru using? I've found that the clearest solution is from the BRS pharmaceutical grade kalk. I also dont dose as much. I'm at 2.5tsp per 5 gal of water.

You can also skim that film off the top after the kalk mix has settled. It's also going to need a lid on the reservoir as contact with air will render it useless
 

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In my opinion kalk use to be a great product but now we have much better products. You don’t have to deal with all the mess that is caused by dosing kalk with a ATO.

Kalk is only Alk/calcium

Instead of kalk you can use
Tropic marine “all for reef” they sell it in powder form and like kalk it’s one thing to dose but unlike kalk all for reef does alk/calcium/magnesium and it does most trace elements and minerals.


Red Sea has a product as well
Red Sea foundation ABC + you can dose alk/calcium/magnesium from one scoop
 
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So I was away for two days. I have an apex jr and a Wyze camera I could see the tank remotely. Nowadays many manufacturers have made their equipment accessible through the cloud so the need for a dedicated controller like an apex has diminished. I have the pump, powerhead and lights all controlled by ecotech smart and I do not use a heater. But I still end up getting an used apex jr to monitor the temperature and ph. I am used to monitoring these parameters. Plus I can use it to control the dosing pumps when the time comes.

I do have a story to tell after all the rambling. I noticed the ph has crept up which I was away. This is quite unusual. Ph is affected by alkalinity and the atmospheric co2 level. I do not dose and I didn’t have the window so there is no change in co2 level. On the contrary the ph level should drift lower due to alkality consumption, albeit very little.

I didn’t figure out what’s happening until I came home then all of a sudden I realized I have not dosed vinegar for two days. The tank was simply using up the excess vinegar. Indeed the phosphate level was basically zero the day I left. What this means is I can monitor excess vinegar using ph as an indicator.

Tank is almost one month old and carbon dosing has kicked in. The few corals are doing great as well, except I see an aiptasia!

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Joe,
I think the pH going higher it normal due to less CO2.


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In my opinion kalk use to be a great product but now we have much better products. You don’t have to deal with all the mess that is caused by dosing kalk with a ATO.

Kalk is only Alk/calcium

Instead of kalk you can use
Tropic marine “all for reef” they sell it in powder form and like kalk it’s one thing to dose but unlike kalk all for reef does alk/calcium/magnesium and it does most trace elements and minerals.


Red Sea has a product as well
Red Sea foundation ABC + you can dose alk/calcium/magnesium from one scoop
I was under the impression that the powder form was only calc mag and alk and you needed to supplement the trace but the liquid is complete. Am I mistaken. Because the powder is waaayyyyy cheaper
 

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I was under the impression that the powder form was only calc mag and alk and you needed to supplement the trace but the liquid is complete. Am I mistaken. Because the powder is waaayyyyy cheaper

Yes the liquid has everything you need. for a tank under 50 gallons it makes sense to use the liquid.
On bigger tanks you can use the powder and add the supplements as needed.
 
Yes the liquid has everything you need. for a tank under 50 gallons it makes sense to use the liquid.
On bigger tanks you can use the powder and add the supplements as needed.
Ok good. I picked up one bottle of liquid and because of cost was investigating powder form. Wanted to be sure I was on the right track. Thanks
 

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Yeah I would start with the bottle. You could also do both. You can use the powder for your daily adjustments and the liquid weekly or bi-weekly to add supplements. If you have a salt that adds all the minerals minor and major elements you need you can use just the powder.
 

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I use kalk, what brand ru using? I've found that the clearest solution is from the BRS pharmaceutical grade kalk. I also dont dose as much. I'm at 2.5tsp per 5 gal of water.

You can also skim that film off the top after the kalk mix has settled. It's also going to need a lid on the reservoir as contact with air will render it useless

I use Kent marine. Didn’t know there is a big difference. Will drip from a bottle instead once I get the time to set it up.
 

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Yeah I would start with the bottle. You could also do both. You can use the powder for your daily adjustments and the liquid weekly or bi-weekly to add supplements. If you have a salt that adds all the minerals minor and major elements you need you can use just the powder.

Used Kalkwasser primarily for its ability to neutralize co2 and secondly experimenting.
 
@juano, @Sponge. No the co2 should not change as the windows were closed. There is almost no air exchange with the outside.
I understand the thinking. And yes there is LESS air exchange when windows are closed but houses are deigned to breath. They are not by any means air tight. If you are away from your house for even 24 hours than that would be long enough to dissipate co2. No different than setting off a bug bomb in your house. If your house was hermetically sealed you could never return. Additionally, by simply not being there you are not consuming oxygen or adding to the co2 levels. I was merely pointing out that there is to much of a variable to make the conclusion that you would know the vinegar dosing level based on PH unless all other variables were removed. I am not suggesting that there is no correlation between carbon dosing and PH of course there is. But no body in the house skews the results enough to render the information not usable on a practical level.
 

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@Sponge. You might be right. But I am home now so we will continue to observe. I have reduced dosing to 5ml/day from 20ml/day. So in theory ph should rise in the next couple of days.
 

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I took advantage of the tunze sale and added an macro algae reactor. I have been eyeing this for a while. It’s well made and a perfect fit for the waterbox sump. I feed the tank 2 cubes plus nori and dry food. Let see if it can keep up.
 

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My orange sea fan has been doing well so I decided to give carnation corals. It’s a very difficult NFS coral and few have been able to keep it alive long term. The main problem is it needs to be fed constantly. Stopped by ACC and they happened to have it in stock. (BTW I love the gorgonian tank they have always something interesting). I will feed it a small scoop of reed chili dropped into the return section of the sump in the morning and feed a variety of stuff to the fish and corals when I am home. The reef chili will keep of float on the surface of the return chamber therefore increase the time of availability.

It is doing ok and semi opened now.
 

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