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chuck116

Hello folks, was just wondering if this will be ok. My question is that I got my sump in my basement , but I dont think I will be able to get the original wet/ dry out from under the stand of my 180 due to the fact that its 36 inches long 16 wide and 18 high . My skimmer is in there now and I was thinking of leaving it there and intact and just plumbing the pump in line with the sump. Am I going to have water level issues with having 3 different heights of water 1 the tank 2 the wet/dry under the tank and then 3 the sump under that. the tank is 180 gallons the wet/dry is 30 gallons or so and the sump is a 100 gallon rubbermaid. As of now the tank has 4 1 inch drains and the wet/dry has a 1 inch bulkhead and the rubbermaid is going to be plumbed inch to hook up to my pump which is a panworld 200. thanks for all the help. Chuck & Anna Maria.
 
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Jcurry@wesketch

Run 3 of the 4 1" drains directly to the rubbermaid sump. The 4th drain goes to the wet dry and then through a 1" drain down to the rubbermaid sump.
 
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chuck116

The system is functional now the only difference would be the placement of the rubbermaid, wouldnt that mean the majority of my water would not be going through the skimmer or does it just go thru in a round about way and just take longer. ?? the current sump is able to handle all 4 drains although I dont think im at full capacity of flow from each drain.. thanks for all the help...
 
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Jcurry@wesketch

If your wet dry can handle all of the current drains now the limiting factor will be the existing 1" bulkhead in the wet dry. If the wet dry is acrylic I would enlarge the existing drain and drill for a new bulkhead so you would have two 1 1/2" drains to the rubbermaid in the basement.
 
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chuck116

this is it VERY BASIC SKETCH my camera skills amonst others are very bad. The tank is set up now all 4 drains go into the wet / dry I just want to add the rubbermaid and im not sure if or how much it will effect the waterlevel in the wet/ dry.
 
malulu

malulu

NJRC Member
THREE options:

(1)
like Jeff said, pick one drain from display directly to sump.

(2)
again, like Jeff said, just make sure the pipe from wet/dry to sump is big enough, either enlarge it or add one more pipe from wet/dry to sump.

(3)
i have the same issue, and i end up with just disconnected the tank under the stand, add let the display go all the way to basement (you can also add as many more tanks as your want in basement...)

:D
 
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chuck116

Ok I like the ideas he gave me I was just afraid the water would not get skimmed properly, Thanks again, you guys are the BEST ;D ;D
 
malulu

malulu

NJRC Member
in your old setup:
unless ALL your water are from display go into your skimmer DIRECTLY...
otherwise, there would be "some water" will be going down and up again without skimming...

if you really concern that, than pick option 2, it would be no different than before.
:D
 
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Jcurry@wesketch

If it were my setup I would do option 2, so you have the convenience of a sump directly below the tank for acclimating new livestock, dosing supplements, etc. I would also suggest that when you run the pipes to the basement you remove a small portion of sheetrock and go down within the wall rather than drilling through your hardwood floors.
A 1" drain running @ max capacity can handle 600 GPH. Using the drain calculate (http://reefcentral.com/calc/drain.php) you need at least a 2" drain to handle the 2400 GPH. I would suggest two 1 1/2" drains for a safety factor and the 1 1/2" drains will be easier to get within the wall. Also I would suggest Durso stand pipes be installed in the skimmer sump to regulate the water height.
 
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chuck116

ok the #2 option is the one I will go for. The sump is acrylic so I will drill and or redrill for the correct size holes. And please forgive my ignorance but the durso pipes in the skimmer sump would be just like the ones in the tank ?? A pipe off of each 1 1/2" bulkhead to a t- fitting to drain the water?? there for I can lower or raise the t -fitting to adjust the flow, just like the pipes in my overflows in the tank ??? Thanks a ton... Regards Chuck.
 
malulu

malulu

NJRC Member
depends on where is the drain holes in your wet/dry sump.

if it was near bottom, you can add durso pipe
if it was near the top aready, then you no need durso pipe.
 
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chuck116

When I drilled the hole for the return bulkhead I drilled it at the bottom so I will drill the second hole in the bottom also then I guess I will build the durso pipes like the return pipes in my tank, Is that correct. ? and thanks again Chuck P
 
malulu

malulu

NJRC Member
it would be great if Peter tell the reason why? what way may be someone else can overcome that issue with some twist... ::)
 
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chuck116

yes I agree. its nice of you guys to help me . I think untill I find another sump of equal size that someone is getting rid of I will just do it the way we spoke about. it would be nice to get something like you have, to plumb into my rubbermaid to hold my skimmer and a small fuge. I am actually thinking of just putting a smaller tank inside the rubbermaid for a fuge after I find out what the water level will be . this way I can control the flow from my pump by adding a line off of my manifold, maybe, not sure yet. Anyway thanks again. I will keep checking the for sale threads. :) :) :)
 
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