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Need some advice on what to do

MikesReef

MikesReef

I also posted this on another thread but I was afraid people might not see it

I noticed my purple tang in my DT now has ICH, I also noticed my labouti wrasse female ( new addition) also has some white spots on it. One of my Jocs is scratching on a rock but no visible signs of ich. I am not sure what to do. I might have to do what Sunny did. I have high end fish. I can't imagine loosing them to an ich outbreak. I can't take my coral out since I do not have proper lighting on my QT tanks. IMO I will have to go down the road of taking fish out.

The purple is not really symptomatic. It is eating. However, the ich is spreading on it. It is by no means covered in ich
The other options are I take the purple out and Qt it alone. I don't know I really don't see this helping.
This does nothing for ich that is in my tank

Needs some advice here. I am not looking forward to run fallow. But I see no other choice here .
If anyone is willing to loan me a tank. 75 or larger. I would greatly appreciate it.
 
jverna1

jverna1

My tank has ich. Almost everybody has ich in their tank. I just keep my fish fat and healthy. I soak pellets in garlic and selcon and keep their immune system strong so they can get through the ich cycle. Works for me.
 
jverna1

jverna1

Im sorry about my post. I didnt mean to make light of your situation. Are you gonna put all your fish in another tank treat them for ich with copper or hyposalinity and leave your display tank fallow for 6 weeks?
 
Sunny

Sunny

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Milke

Feed the fish more and see they all are eating. If you can catch the fish easily and put them in QT then go with hypo.
Remember that trying to catch the fish will stress them much more and can make things worse. If they are eating well I would wait to see how they do.
They may fight the ich off themselves.

Sunny
 
jverna1

jverna1

monroereef said:
Milke

Feed the fish more and see they all are eating. If you can catch the fish easily and put them in QT then go with hypo.
Remember that trying to catch the fish will stress them much more and can make things worse. If they are eating well I would wait to see how they do.
They may fight the ich off themselves.

Sunny
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+1 . Thats kinda what I was saying on my first post but you conveyed it better.
 
S

SHLUZER

+1 for garlic based on my own experience.
When I stopped adding 2-3 drops of garlic into food mix for couple weeks, started to see ich.
Now add garlic always.
 
dirtycontour

dirtycontour

SHLUZER said:
+1 for garlic based on my own experience.
When I stopped adding 2-3 drops of garlic into food mix for couple weeks, started to see ich.
Now add garlic always.
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Does the garlic actually strengthen their immune system or does it just make food more enticing?
 
Classklown90

Classklown90

SHLUZER said:
+1 for garlic based on my own experience.
When I stopped adding 2-3 drops of garlic into food mix for couple weeks, started to see ich.
Now add garlic always.
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+2 I'm no expert at all but the one time I had ick I just fed heavy with garlic saturated food and it ran it's course with no casualties
 
J

Jcurry@wesketch

You can also add a skunk cleaner shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis) or 2. They'll pick parasites off your fish, including ich. I wouldn't keep a tank with tangs without atleast one.
 
mori30

mori30

Sadly to say Im pretty good at dealing with ick. I had it pretty often when I was experimenting with salt water fish. And I cured it always with minimal loss if any

1st- understand that ick it's not a skin parasite. Aka. No other animal can cure them it's nothing that can be pick at, lick at, suck at.

2nd- just cause you don't see it on your fish doesn't mean there isn't ick in the tank, so yes u can take ur fish out , maybe they get cure( maybe the white spots will be gone) doesn't mean they cure,,, BUT. There still ick in the sand and rocks and wall.


So what I did? I did 2 things at once.

A- raise temp, the higher the better
B- I did a what I call (clean water change ). Meaning every 24h I took out enough water and replace it with fresh water to bring down salinity by bout 4-5 points a change, the goal here it's to bring it the water to 009 gradually.

Warning if some of ur fish are weak at the moment. They will die, corals have to be removed (hopefully not attacked to a LR)

Wile all this it's going. U have to continue to feed heavily with garlic, as well as add a air pump (lower salinity, less exigent in water)
Once u reach the appointed goal. Stay there for a few weeks.

Everything should be dead( ick). Then gradually bring back the salinity back up again the same way u took it down.

Now someone will say there is no need for that. I did this and that and my fish are good since then (years).
No, ur fish still have ick. U just making they immune system so good that now they live with it , the rocks, the sands the glass still full of it

You can try messing around with cooper as well. But that's tricky and I think everyone's tanks it's to different to give advice there.


Btw I repeat. No shrimp, or cleaner fish can cure ick.

Hope it helps.
 
MikesReef

MikesReef

I am trying Dr G anti parasitic food. However,fish don't seem to like it. It must not be very appetizing. I am mixing with gut loaded mysis and soaking with garlic. As for raising the temperature expert opinion seems to indicate temperature has no effect on marine ich.

Sunny, I agree trying to catch all the fish will stress the fish, more importantly it will stress me.:eek:
 
dnov99

dnov99

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I agree with everybody else with just feeding and using the supplements, selcon is very good to add also and lots of dried seaweed. I have had ICH in my tank for its entire existence and never had an issue. 30+ fish and 4 large tangs, including powder blue and achilles and they have been there for years. Also running UV is a big help, in my experiences.
 
MikesReef

MikesReef

Was at the local fish store which will remain name less one of kids still wet behind ears(I never really understood why people say this) tried to get me to buy kick ich. Said many customers have had great success with it
I have read that it is worthless and a waste of money. The kid said used by major aquariums. I told him my research says this is snake oil
I told him good try but I am not interested

Anyone ever use this stuff kick ich
By ruby?
 
NJ Reef Farm

NJ Reef Farm

I have had a salt water tank for the last 20 years and thought that keeping fish well feed was the key.
I feed a 8 by 12 sheet of nori every day
I add garlic I feed spectrum Thera food that I add vit c too
I now know its all about luck I lost all of my well feed fish to ich for years I thought no big deal they all eat that's all that matters. hope you make out ok
but all that think food and and stuff will do you all are just lucky like I was for a long time
 
MikesReef

MikesReef

It has been 4 days since I posted the thread. The ich seems the same. The purple tang is the only fish showing ich. Ich appears to be stable if not maybe a little less visible on purple. Fish is fat and healthy. Eating well. All others look okay. Except the fox face (fat fish) his color is a little faded and he has these bumps on him. Does not look like ich. Honestly I think he had this for a while I never really paid attention to it. The fish continuous to act fine.
i am taking this day by day. IF need be I will run Fallow and hypo salinity the fish I am able to catch. Ordered a fish trap no chance I can catch anything with a net. Waiting for this to arrive. taking it one day at a time and hoping luck stays with me. UV is running so this helps somewhat.
 
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