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I don't think that is correct - the guy is trying insinuate an angel fish would go on the list? If I read the text on the bill - that would not happen.
SEC. 4. LIST OF APPROVED SPECIES.
(a) Requirement To Issue List of Approved Species-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 36 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register a list of nonnative wildlife species approved for importation into the United States.
(2) EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN SPECIES- The Secretary shall not include in the list--
(A) any species included in the list of prohibited species under section 5; or
(B) any species, the importation of which is prohibited by any other Federal law or regulation of the United States due to the likelihood of causing harm to the economy, the environment, or other animal species or human health.
(3) REVISION- The Secretary may revise the list issued under this section based on available scientific and commercial information.
(b) Preliminary List-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall include in the preliminary list under this section nonnative wildlife species that the Secretary finds, consistent with the factors described in section 3(b) and based on scientific and commercial information that is provided in a proposal under paragraph (2) or otherwise available to the Secretary--
(A) are not harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health; or
(B) may be harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health, but already are so widespread in the United States that it is clear to the Secretary that any import prohibitions or restrictions would have no practical utility for the United States.
SEC. 4. LIST OF APPROVED SPECIES.
(a) Requirement To Issue List of Approved Species-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 36 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register a list of nonnative wildlife species approved for importation into the United States.
(2) EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN SPECIES- The Secretary shall not include in the list--
(A) any species included in the list of prohibited species under section 5; or
(B) any species, the importation of which is prohibited by any other Federal law or regulation of the United States due to the likelihood of causing harm to the economy, the environment, or other animal species or human health.
(3) REVISION- The Secretary may revise the list issued under this section based on available scientific and commercial information.
(b) Preliminary List-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall include in the preliminary list under this section nonnative wildlife species that the Secretary finds, consistent with the factors described in section 3(b) and based on scientific and commercial information that is provided in a proposal under paragraph (2) or otherwise available to the Secretary--
(A) are not harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health; or
(B) may be harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health, but already are so widespread in the United States that it is clear to the Secretary that any import prohibitions or restrictions would have no practical utility for the United States.
OK IM Scared!
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-669
(i) any such live, wild species or subspecies of mammal, bird, fish, reptile, amphibian, insect, mollusk, crustacean, arthropod, coelenterate, or other invertebrate, and
(ii) any viable egg, sperm, gamete, or other reproductive material or offspring thereof;
AND
SEC. 6. PROHIBITIONS AND PENALTIES.
(a) Prohibitions- Except as provided in this section or in section 7, it is unlawful for any person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to--
(1) import into or export from the United States any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
(2) transport between any State by any means whatsoever any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
(3) violate any term or condition of a permit issued under section 7;
(4) possess (except as provided in section 3(f)), sell or offer to sell, purchase or offer to purchase, or barter for or offer to barter for, any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1);
(5) release into the wild any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1); or
(6) breed any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1), or provide any such species to another person for breeding purposes.
(b) Penalties and Enforcement- Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to the civil penalties and criminal penalties described in section 4 of the Lacey Act Amendments of 1981 (16 U.S.C. 3373). Sections 4(b), 4(e), 5, and 6 of that Act shall apply to such a violation in the same manner as they apply to a violation of that Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-669
(i) any such live, wild species or subspecies of mammal, bird, fish, reptile, amphibian, insect, mollusk, crustacean, arthropod, coelenterate, or other invertebrate, and
(ii) any viable egg, sperm, gamete, or other reproductive material or offspring thereof;
AND
SEC. 6. PROHIBITIONS AND PENALTIES.
(a) Prohibitions- Except as provided in this section or in section 7, it is unlawful for any person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to--
(1) import into or export from the United States any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
(2) transport between any State by any means whatsoever any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
(3) violate any term or condition of a permit issued under section 7;
(4) possess (except as provided in section 3(f)), sell or offer to sell, purchase or offer to purchase, or barter for or offer to barter for, any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1);
(5) release into the wild any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1); or
(6) breed any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1), or provide any such species to another person for breeding purposes.
(b) Penalties and Enforcement- Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to the civil penalties and criminal penalties described in section 4 of the Lacey Act Amendments of 1981 (16 U.S.C. 3373). Sections 4(b), 4(e), 5, and 6 of that Act shall apply to such a violation in the same manner as they apply to a violation of that Act.
Whitebird1 said:
why?
If our hobby is in danger then everyone that owns a dog or cat is also at risk
IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall include in the preliminary list under this section nonnative wildlife species that the Secretary finds, consistent with the factors described in section 3(b) and based on scientific and commercial information that is provided in a proposal under paragraph (2) or otherwise available to the Secretary--
(A) are not harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health; or
So unless you are going to evidence how the percula clownfish is harmful to the US economy,environment, or human health - I don't see an issue.
This bill is all about people bringing snakeheads in and releasing them. Or releasing huge pythons in the everglades. The video is pure hogwash - especially the legality behind breeding of hamsters? give me a break.
The sponsor of the bill is from Guam and she probably has first hand knowledge about people getting pets/animals and releasing it back into that island. It's a mess and she's trying to put some claws into their ability to fight back. I say good for her. If they tried to stop people from importing ornamental fish - I can assure you THAT would be "harmful to the US economy" and I'm sure some lobbyist somewhere would make sure that ornamentals would be included on the exempt list.
relax I saw it if you want to sign the email then do it if not dont end of discussion :
This bill will absolutely have an affect on our hobby. It can't help but. How far reaching the effect... well I guess we'll see. But when Pihrannah, lionfish and the snake heads are devastating local waters, I think there is some merit to it.
Part of the problem is that the hobby doesn't have a lobbyist to fight any of this in Washington. That means that the lawmakers don't know which fish would prove invasive and problematic and which ones would not be an issue.
Part of the problem is that the hobby doesn't have a lobbyist to fight any of this in Washington. That means that the lawmakers don't know which fish would prove invasive and problematic and which ones would not be an issue.
;D I vote we send PHIL!!!!
fat chance....LOL.
of course there are lobbyists - right here: http://www.pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1
of course there are lobbyists - right here: http://www.pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1
No phyl, it is tropical fish also birds everything dont do nothing even if you just own fish. my family has reptiles birds fish and ferrets so help out please. you never know you may want one some day. Bobb
I think people should be able to own any type of fish or animal they want as long as your experienced or know what your doing and are approved to own one. Maybe if they make you sign a contract or something, maybe more stuff idk, As long as your not an idiot who is getting a snake or lion fish til it out grows it's living space and then release it to the wild, you should be able to keep one. Although i don't think you should be able to keep things that are close to the endangered species list unless maybe your an expert with a degree or something and you're going to breed them in captive.
So does this mean no more zoo's or aquariums are going to be opening or getting any new exhibits??? :
~Nick
So does this mean no more zoo's or aquariums are going to be opening or getting any new exhibits??? :
~Nick
Oh thats true lol...
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Guys the Bill is real and will def have an affect on the coral and fish importation. BY THE WAY ITS GOOOOD!!
But lets back track before we discuss the legislation. The only reason why this legislation is being put forth is because its being sponsored by politicians who are looking out for the interest of their legislative district. Most of these politicians have interest that involve invasive species.
This legislation was brought on by careless importers and vendors and hobbyist who don't understand that if its gonna get too big and you wouldn't be able to keep don't buy it. Vendors and importers bring in fish and inverts or macros that they know people cant keep and don't care.
Here are some of the committee member home locations
GUAM
Lousiana
American Samoa
Hawaii
South Carolina
Virgin Island
California
Puerto Rico
Mariana Islands
New Jersey
New Hampshire
There is nothing to lobby for with this legislation. They are not going after an industry they are trying to protect wildlife and preserve our oceans by making sure people dont import fish and animals that can be invasive. Most of our fish can not survive in water like ours but some of those areas on the list they will.
You are all lookin at this legislation from a me first point of view. If you knew that not having a certain coral or fish would make it possible for your grand kids to go diving or use a beach somewhere in the USA, doesn't that mean anything.
Or are you really concerned that you might not get that zoa or fish, or bird.
But lets back track before we discuss the legislation. The only reason why this legislation is being put forth is because its being sponsored by politicians who are looking out for the interest of their legislative district. Most of these politicians have interest that involve invasive species.
This legislation was brought on by careless importers and vendors and hobbyist who don't understand that if its gonna get too big and you wouldn't be able to keep don't buy it. Vendors and importers bring in fish and inverts or macros that they know people cant keep and don't care.
Here are some of the committee member home locations
GUAM
Lousiana
American Samoa
Hawaii
South Carolina
Virgin Island
California
Puerto Rico
Mariana Islands
New Jersey
New Hampshire
There is nothing to lobby for with this legislation. They are not going after an industry they are trying to protect wildlife and preserve our oceans by making sure people dont import fish and animals that can be invasive. Most of our fish can not survive in water like ours but some of those areas on the list they will.
You are all lookin at this legislation from a me first point of view. If you knew that not having a certain coral or fish would make it possible for your grand kids to go diving or use a beach somewhere in the USA, doesn't that mean anything.
Or are you really concerned that you might not get that zoa or fish, or bird.