Some personal suggestions on QT needed

[Kai]

• Tank Transfer Method
• Methylene Blue
• a fish kept in a box with Prime
• now talk about copper treatment

I mean to me, it seems you're just spit balling with every Qt method out there. The only thing missing from this list is a Freshwater Dip. I don't mean to sound harsh @Kai but I think you should've done some more research 1st before playing mad scientist. I'd be really surprised if any of your fish survive after all that.

I didn't do a complete tank transfer as it was documented above, they switched containers twice because yes, I admit I didn't realize how quickly ammonia would take over. I had done plenty of research on that method and have seen several people who did it the way that I tried. Because several sources did it, one of which being as a part of a research study around the method itself, I didn't question any issue of ammonia.

Humblefish specifically instructed me to do a Methylene Blue dip because of ammonia exposure which I did following his directions exactly.
I have been using prime since the first day when the ammonia started which is why I've asked about if any sort of prime residue if there was one would have any issues with a possible copper treatment in the future.

Yes, they were in a small container for a day and a half. But it was bigger than a shipping bag and they had an airstone. When I realized that mistake I amended it within the hour.

I appreciate the concern over my fish, I am trying to do what's best for them. When I received a sick fish, I didn't continue with my original plans. Just as outlined by Humblefish, when I noticed another problem crop up while doing TTM, I stopped using TTM as instructed and took care of that problem first.

I apologize for being harsh about this, but I came here looking to get help for my fish because I know that things went wrong. I've admitted all of the mistakes I've made with this and I've been following the advice of the experts and others that I trust as much as I can. @ecambero was not the first to suggest that they do a preemptive treatment with copper which is why I am asking about it. I don't see a problem with trying to learn more about the best possible options for my fish when some things haven't worked out.

I cannot change the mistakes I have made in the past, but I can learn from them to do better in the future.

 

[ecam]

Well said bud. No harm in learning and no wrong question. @trio91 very passionate about wasted sushi. Hahaha


Aside from that.

When I get a fish in I acclimate and let them swim around in my viewing tank for a few weeks to make sure they are eating. Any signs interrupts this and they all go straight to copper. But if not they get Fatten up for two weeks.

Once they are ready. They go into copper tank. No copper is present at this time so it’s a new tank with pvc and fresh water nothing more. I divide my copper dosage over 7 days to make sure i do it slowly. Any signs of discomfort they go back to the viewing tank and I start hypo. (For ick only).

After 7 days. Tank is a therapeutic range of 1.7 and stays there for 15 days. If still eating. I will add Praziquantel as well ( but since ur new. Don’t do that yet)

I then pull them out and put them back into disinfected viewing tank for another 15 days and if all well they go into display

 

[Kai]

Well said bud. No harm in learning and no wrong question. @trio91 very passionate about wasted sushi. Hahaha


Aside from that.

When I get a fish in I acclimate and let them swim around in my viewing tank for a few weeks to make sure they are eating. Any signs interrupts this and they all go straight to copper. But if not they get Fatten up for two weeks.

Once they are ready. They go into copper tank. No copper is present at this time so it’s a new tank with pvc and fresh water nothing more. I divide my copper dosage over 7 days to make sure i do it slowly. Any signs of discomfort they go back to the viewing tank and I start hypo. (For ick only).

After 7 days. Tank is a therapeutic range of 1.7 and stays there for 15 days. If still eating. I will add Praziquantel as well ( but since ur new. Don’t do that yet)

I then pull them out and put them back into disinfected viewing tank for another 15 days and if all well they go into display

It really looks like I'll have to research more on copper treatments. Another method I've just been told about was a lot slower and a lot longer. I like the shorter time span in copper much better but I have yet to start any further research on that past 'the Hanna tester seems expensive but everyone recommends it, copper is scary, I'll go with that'.

I'm so grateful that my fish are now all eating like little pigs! Well most of them are, I do have an algae blenny who I'm not sure about. But even the super skinny goby who got everything to this point is now eating brine shrimp like a champ. I plan to make sure that the skinny one fattens up before I start any kind of treatment, and my ammonia alert badge came in the mail today.

What do you recommend to make sure that a herbivore is eating since some tasty brine shrimp won't do it? I have some ulva in there, I've seen him nip at it on occasion, and I just put a rock in there from my sump that's got a bunch of algae in it. If I have to do copper I'll remove it and it'll stay fishless for 76 days when I'm done, but I'm trying to get as much living food in there as possible so it doesn't contribute to ammonia. I do have some garlic algae sheets, I'll stick one in tomorrow for snacking on as well and make sure I fish out as much as I can after a while.

Do you know anything about prime and copper? Well things like the PVC having been exposed to prime, and the filter floss that's been soaking in my sump for a while having been exposed to prime a couple weeks ago?

 

[ecam]

Prime and copper don’t mix. Not sure if it lingers on sponges.

It should disappear over time so. I would say it’s okay for now. But once copper is on the system do not use prime.

You can keep Fish in copper for 30 days. But remember it’s a poison so he longer they stay the more toxic it becomes. So if you do it right you can achieve same result in 15 days and then transfer to an observation for another 15 days

 

[Kai]

Prime and copper don’t mix. Not sure if it lingers on sponges.

It should disappear over time so. I would say it’s okay for now. But once copper is on the system do not use prime.

You can keep Fish in copper for 30 days. But remember it’s a poison so he longer they stay the more toxic it becomes. So if you do it right you can achieve same result in 15 days and then transfer to an observation for another 15 days

The less time in copper sounds better to me, I'm afraid of it to begin with, the less time they're in there the less worried I'll be. I'm glad to hear that you seem to think that the sponges will be fine because that was my bet on biological filtration for them.
Any thoughts on what an algae blenny might really enjoy? I'd like for all my fish to be nice and plump before I start any treatment.

 

[ecam]

not good with alge blenny. tried floating algae and see if it eats it from a rock

 

[Kai]

not good with alge blenny. tried floating algae and see if it eats it from a rock

I'll stick some things in there and see what he'll eat. Thank you so much for the help!