I am thinking of relocating my sump into my basement. I recently purchased a new pump and it seems like its to big for my sump. its draining my sump before the pump can return the water to it. I took the advice of a fellow reefer and installed a manifold to return some water to the sump. Which is working ,but not giving me full potential from the pump, which is why i got ,for more flow. also with the lights I have it seems like my water is getting to hot so I believe I am going to need a chiller. I know that the pump runs the chiller so it would slow the flow , but i dont know if it would be enough to use my existing sump. and I think that it would be better for me noise, heat and space wise to have them below my tank in my basement, which is cooler temp wise. It would only be approximatly 4 feet lower. I am looking for help, other suggestions and or pros and cons. the pump is a panworld 200 the tank is 180 gallons the current sump is 36x16x16. Not sure exactly what to do I am looking forward to housing corals, but want the tank and equipment to be stable before I make the attempt at coral keeping.
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Thinking of going into basement...
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if you do go into the basement those plastic rubbermaid stock tanks make good sumps... i think the sizes are 100,150,175,200 gallons ( and im sure theres others )
Read this thread. Has some really good info. http://www.njreefers.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=1926.0
ps.. Its not as bad as it looks
ps.. Its not as bad as it looks
cut a hole in the wall then go down instead of cutting a hole in the floor. its way easier to patch a square of sheetrock then it is wood.
100g rubbermaid makes the perfect size for a sump. Ours runs at about 50g and fills to probably 85 when the system is off.
Instead of drilling a hole in the floor, which is generally harder to "fix" if you take the tank down, go through the wall and then through the floor between walls. This way you can just put the sheetrock back and be no worse for wear.
The basement will reduce/eliminate your need for a chiller, but you may need to run a dehumidifier instead. Wall off that section of your basement if possible to contain the humidity.
Instead of drilling a hole in the floor, which is generally harder to "fix" if you take the tank down, go through the wall and then through the floor between walls. This way you can just put the sheetrock back and be no worse for wear.
The basement will reduce/eliminate your need for a chiller, but you may need to run a dehumidifier instead. Wall off that section of your basement if possible to contain the humidity.
SOUNDS good thanks .. will check the thread... yes my girl is in for the sump move. when i met her i had one tank now i have three lol she is as into it as i am . I was wondering if i would still need a chiller cause my basement is about 10 to 15 degrees cooler. thanks again folks. I am sure to be back after work with more questions.
Regards Chuck
Regards Chuck
We have 6g a day of evap. That's a lot of humidity and things in the basement were RUSTING as a result. We had to start up a dehumidifier to get the "damp" out of the things stored in the basement.
We use filter socks instead of bubble traps. They seem to work fine. We also keep the out flows as far from the infeeds as possible.
As far as less or more involved, just use your manifold to make it as simple or complex as you desire. If you look at our thread, you can see that it started out fairly simple and has gotten more complex as time goes by. The dehumidifier is an energy hog though, and my greatest regret. Hence the suggestion to put a wall around the system.
Out from the sump, up to the display back down to the sump. Everything else is gravy. I'm sure there are plenty of people with less severe systems running through the basement though. BLange3 is one that comes to mind. I wonder if he has any pictures posted yet...
We use filter socks instead of bubble traps. They seem to work fine. We also keep the out flows as far from the infeeds as possible.
As far as less or more involved, just use your manifold to make it as simple or complex as you desire. If you look at our thread, you can see that it started out fairly simple and has gotten more complex as time goes by. The dehumidifier is an energy hog though, and my greatest regret. Hence the suggestion to put a wall around the system.
Out from the sump, up to the display back down to the sump. Everything else is gravy. I'm sure there are plenty of people with less severe systems running through the basement though. BLange3 is one that comes to mind. I wonder if he has any pictures posted yet...
If you don't have frags in your sump you can cover the water/sump with foam or with ping pong balls. It will greatly reduce the evaporation and is much cheaper than running a dehumidifier in the long run.
We have a very easy design we used in our basement. We run our overflows into 100 gallon rubbermaid tub then we gravity feed to our refugium then to the return pump back to the tank we are using a marlin pump and it pumps 2150 gph we have no issues at all.
Hey Chuck, it was nice meeting you yesterday. Sorry I didn't get a whole lot of time to talk to you, though. I'm not sure where you're located but if you're anywhere near Jackson and would like to swing by, I can walk you through my design (which isn't nearly as complicated as it looks) and talk through your plan with you. Just thought I'd throw that out there because I really wanted to be able to spend a few minutes with you at the meeting.
Wow thanks for the invite. may take you up on it one day.I. sure we will see you at the next meeting . I am going to try to use my existing equipment and stay on one floor . I got some good ideas from mikem and the guys, and have been working on it since sunday. it seems as though I had some suspect plumbing as far as flow back to the sump goes. I ahve my fingers crossed and am up to my elbows in hoses and old pipe.
Chuck P
Chuck P