• Folks, if you've recently upgraded or renewed your annual club membership but it's still not active, please reach out to the BOD or a moderator. The PayPal system has a slight bug which it doesn't allow it to activate the account on it's own.

BB or SB

I am setting up a 90 gallon and was wonder peoples opinions, bare bottom or shallow sand bed? I currently have a 75 with about 1" of sand and like it but transferring the sand is going to be a pain. I would rather just throw it in the sump.

do you like your BB if you got one?
 

JohnS_323

Officer Emeritus
Officer Emeritus
Get out the popcorn, pull up a chair and let the battle begin!

{this is always good for some rather heated *opinions*}
 
I prefer a sand bed. Last time i checked a bare bottom ocean doesn't exist ;D. But then again a bare bottom tank is easier to clean

Just my two cents

Harry
 
There is no really right or wrong way when it come to sandbeds ot bare bottom tanks. You'll find people use all sorts and have good results.

Base your choice upon what you want to keep in the tank. If you want fish that dig, like jawfish, then you need something for them to dig in. If you have a refugium with a DSB, then you may not need a sandbed at all in the tank. There are many other ways to work this.

My personal preference is a DSB, but someone using a bare bottom or shallow sandbad can be just as correct.
 
Also, there is yet another alternative you can go with that's sort of a compromise. If you like the look of the sand bed but don't actually want one you can get a sheet of acrylic cut at HD/Lowes and glue sand to it. Then place this on the bottom of your tank. It will have the look of the sand bed but won't blow all around.

With good current it won't get dirty but without high flow the "sand" will get a brownish look over time. The good part is that you can take a powerhead and blast it to clean it without worry of it blowing all around.

As already stated your choice of fish and other equipment will help dictate you need for a sand bed.

Carlo
 
Hi Rob

Decision should be based on whether or not you want to keep "sand dwelling" livestock, if like/dislike the look of a SB tank and whether or not you have the time or even want to clean a SB.

Personally, I have a 2" SB and think the gobies, wrasses, snails, starfish etc. that use the SB make my reef more interesting.

But, I really dislike cleaning the SB and know that I don't do it as often as I should.

Dom
 
What would this discussion be without me chiming in!

Just read my signature line.

And no, I didn't hear or see that speaker at the frag swap who had pictures of a bare bottom ocean! ;D
 

RichT

Officer Emeritus
Officer Emeritus
The material the tank is made from is a consideration also. I know most acrylic tank owners have issues with the sand and scratches.
 
I really prefer the look of a sandbed but I am going BB in my new tank for a couple of reasons:
1) Want to have huge water flow to maximize SPS growth
2) I have been traumatized by flatworm infestation. The love DSBs, hate BBs and high water flow.
3) It simplifies maintenance. There's not LESS maintenance, but what needs doing is more apparent.
4) Depite what SOME people think, most reefs are on hardbottoms, not sandy shoals.
5) The sandbed in my 58G eventually got full of organic material and it was a problem. I think you can have a sandbed if you follow the Steve Weast practice of removing and replacing some of it all the time.

Negatives for me:
1) I love the look of sand, particularly CaribSea special reef grade
2) I like the micro and macro life that needs a sandbed, wrasses, pistol shrimp etc. Sandbeds promote diversity.
3) It are my beach! I needs sand!
 
Another upside to not having a sand bed at all is parasite infections. The less substrate and rock in the tank the less chance of parasite life cycles being successfull.

I wouldn't base my decision on that alone however but thought I'd throw that out there for anyone "on the line" or making a Pro/Con list.

Carlo
 


Its really up to you and what livestock you will keep. I have a 180g with starboard and the pro's I see on it is It stays clean and I like Flow :D.I don't have to worry on cleaning the dietrus as it doesn't build that much compare to sand. Less work for me...

HOWEVER - I miss the look of the DSB AND SB when I had my 75 and 120g. I can't also put some of my favorite fish like wrasses as they need sand to hide. When I set up another tank I will go with SB on it as I will be likely keeping more fish than corals...
 
I say no sand! use white cutting board so you will get a nice white reflection.
You can have as much flow as you want without having to worry.
You can vacuum waste debris once in a while.
Again this is good for a tank that doesnt have sand dwelling critters.
Sure the Ocean has sand but coral reefs are isolated from it, Corals die and other corals grow on top of them and they sort of create a rocky foundation.

This is my little cube with cutting board bottom. I also had a 72G with cutting board bottom.


8.JPG

9.JPG
 
cutting board, that looks like a good idea. I was a little worried with placing the rock directly on the glass. I was going to paint the back and bottom of the tank black, but that cutting board likes nice.
 
I got those at Wallmart they measure 12x18 and they are $9.99 a piece. You can cut them easily with a handsaw but if you have a powered saw use it...

I saw  people silicone them to the bottom of the tank but I dont think thats necesary.

Peace!
 
DSB= Algae
Algae= Headaches
Headaches= Me getting out of this hobby
Me getting out of this hobby= Getting back into my old hobby
Me getting back into my old hobby= Me buying another race car
Me buying another race car= 40k plus about $400 a weekend on fuel and tires!
40k plus $400 a weekend= Me staying bare bottom ;D ;D ;D
 
Top