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redfishbluefish

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........Any min now Paul will chime in praising Bayer insect killer. I think that pretty much kills everything, though I could be wrong.


Contrary to the beliefs of many, on the seventh day, before God took a rest, he made Bayer Complete. (John, is that too much praise?) :grin:

If it works on the bugs in our lawn, why wouldn’t it work on the bugs in our tank. It’s a natural neurotoxin that has had hundreds of years of history. In the good old days people would make their own by making a tobacco tea, which would be sprayed on their plants. Relatively safe compared to some other chemicals that are pretty nasty.
 
Contrary to the beliefs of many, on the seventh day, before God took a rest, he made Bayer Complete. (John, is that too much praise?) :grin:

If it works on the bugs in our lawn, why wouldn’t it work on the bugs in our tank. It’s a natural neurotoxin that has had hundreds of years of history. In the good old days people would make their own by making a tobacco tea, which would be sprayed on their plants. Relatively safe compared to some other chemicals that are pretty nasty.

Safe for the coral tank...yes ( Isolated ecosystem).Safe for the environment, I say no. A non selective insecticide that plants translocate throughout, killing both the good and the bad. It's not safe in my definition:(

Sorry for my soapbox 2 cents,
Pete
 

redfishbluefish

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Safe for the coral tank...yes

Actually NO. Do not use this in your tank. This is a dip for corals, not a tank treatment.


Safe for the environment, I say no. A non selective insecticide that plants translocate throughout, killing both the good and the bad. It's not safe in my definition

Pete, I agree…..for your definition…..And I should clarify; safe for your corals. It will not harm your corals, but will kill all the bad boys on your corals….and any good guys that are there as well….pods, starfish, etc. As Pete pointed out, it is an indiscriminate killer (of “bugs”).

(Is this déjà vu…..didn’t we already have this discussion somewhere else? If not you, it was someone else.)
 
No Paul, it was me. We talked about this before. I am all for qt and killing pests as you pointed out before we put them into our ecosystem. It should work great as a dip treatment.

I just do not like the product on ethical principles. The EPA studies are flawed and it is banned in Europe. For those of you who do not know me I am also a beekeeper for 14+ years. It kills honey bees! So if you use this on your plants due to translocation if they flower , honey bees drink the nectar and bring neurotoxin laced nectar home to the hive that, if it does not kill the hive....you and I get to eat it next time we grab some honey. See my dilemma:(
 
Blue stripe pipefish. Favorite fish by far but seldom seen
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mnat

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Nice, I read the article in coral magazine about the blue stripes natural habitat being stony corals in high flow areas. Once you can get them eating, they are supposed to be incredibly easy to keep. One member, quik, on here had a pair that was laying eggs for him.
 
Were you able to get him eating prepared food. Ive been wanting a pair for a long time but with my wrasses have pretty much decimated the pod population so Im kind of afraid to try. Ive seen a few people keeping the dragon face pipefish also in full reefs. They are not strong swimmers, but tend to hug/slither on the rocks more.
 
Nice, I read the article in coral magazine about the blue stripes natural habitat being stony corals in high flow areas. Once you can get them eating, they are supposed to be incredibly easy to keep. One member, quik, on here had a pair that was laying eggs for him.

Yea rich had one before he broke his tank down and I was gonna buy his but I could not see if mine was make or female in enough time before he sold his. Very cool tho

Were you able to get him eating prepared food. Ive been wanting a pair for a long time but with my wrasses have pretty much decimated the pod population so Im kind of afraid to try. Ive seen a few people keeping the dragon face pipefish also in full reefs. They are not strong swimmers, but tend to hug/slither on the rocks more.

He eats frozen but mostly lives off pods. I love him
 
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