Routing RO Waste Water Line Outside

[ATLL765]

Actually if you do it right, you don't even need to turn the water off.

That's it, some RO/DI systems even come with saddle valves. Your pressure should be the same as you normal pressure.

BRS has a video on it.

I read you don't have to shut it off, but that it's best to do so to avoid any leakage.

Sorry mark I do not agree saddle valves are prone to leaks and provide limited water pressure. Go to Home Depot and buy a shark bite and cut it in with a hose bib no soldering easy, safe and full water pressure.

I've used saddle valves for humidifiers and refrigerator ice machines with never a problem.

There's a saddle valve on the line already that hasn't leaked in the many years it's been installed, but I would think the sharkbite fittings share that problem since they use a rubber seal as well?

 

[Cdiggy]

Same pressure yes but low volume. Better off with something less restrictive. Also those shark bites are very convenient but might not be code in some areas. I don't trust those damn things anyway but I am in the business and a pro at soldering. And they are expensive to boot. Just my $.02 I think you might be up to $.20 on this thread!!!!

 

[Hockeynut]

Pic of mine

Expensive yes, never seen one leak,,,, ever

 

[REEFLECTIONS]

i work in a plumbing and heating supply house for 12 years, and have sold hundreds of sharkbite ftgs... use it with good peace of mind. they are bullet proof

 

[Mark...]

Found the BRS video...

[video=youtube;dTONjczeGGY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTONjczeGGY[/video]

 

[Cdiggy]

Pic of mine

Expensive yes, never seen one leak,,,, ever

Wish I could say the same although everyone has been a hot water line. Thank god I didn't install them (although I had to fix them). After seeing them in action I do not trust them.

 

[e_baer]

Just get a long piece of RO/DI hose and run it through the wall to under the kitchen sink and tap in there.

 

[redfishbluefish]

I have to agree with Hockeynut on the use of a straddle valve. However, I do disagree with him about supplying sufficient pressure (volume.) A straddle valve will provide the volume needed to run the sized RO/DI units we use.


Here’s my two cents……straddle valves work great for ice makers and the like. You tap into a pipe, attach the feed line, open the valve and never touch that valve again (or not until you need to fix the ice maker). The issue with using them for an RO/DI unit is that the valve really wasn’t meant to be turned on and off repeatedly. If you are going to use a straddle valve and use some other means to turn the water on and off to the RO/DI unit, go for it. Otherwise, install a “real” valve by tapping into a cold water line.

 

[ATLL765]

Pic of mine

Expensive yes, never seen one leak,,,, ever

So I just get a tee and a hose bib like you got in the pic there, cut out a section of the pipe, put the tee in, then hopefully use that cut piece of pipe to connect the tee to the hose bib?

I have to agree with Hockeynut on the use of a straddle valve. However, I do disagree with him about supplying sufficient pressure (volume.) A straddle valve will provide the volume needed to run the sized RO/DI units we use.


Here’s my two cents……straddle valves work great for ice makers and the like. You tap into a pipe, attach the feed line, open the valve and never touch that valve again (or not until you need to fix the ice maker). The issue with using them for an RO/DI unit is that the valve really wasn’t meant to be turned on and off repeatedly. If you are going to use a straddle valve and use some other means to turn the water on and off to the RO/DI unit, go for it. Otherwise, install a “real” valve by tapping into a cold water line.

There's a shut off valve on the line going into the RO/DI. So leaving the saddle valve open, at all times, is not a problem.

 

[magic]

As far as the waste water goes do you have a A/C condensation line anywhere. When I had my RO in the garage that was what I tapped into.

Bob

 

[AqOb]

Couple of things.

A self-piercing saddle valve provides plenty of water for a typical ro unit. You should install an on/off valve separately. If you tap in like hockeynut I prefer to use the 1/4 or 3/8 compression fitting instead of the garden hose attachment.

You can mount the ro anywhere in the basement and run the waste and feed lines to any sink with a cabinet on the first floor. Use a DSAD(drain saddle) and self-piercing saddle valve. Drill 2 holes through the floor and cabinet and run the lines anywhere. Quick and easy with minimal tools.

I wouldn't want water draining against my foundation all day.
-Ethan

 

[ATLL765]

Couple of things.

A self-piercing saddle valve provides plenty of water for a typical ro unit. You should install an on/off valve separately. If you tap in like hockeynut I prefer to use the 1/4 or 3/8 compression fitting instead of the garden hose attachment.

You can mount the ro anywhere in the basement and run the waste and feed lines to any sink with a cabinet on the first floor. Use a DSAD(drain saddle) and self-piercing saddle valve. Drill 2 holes through the floor and cabinet and run the lines anywhere. Quick and easy with minimal tools.

I wouldn't want water draining against my foundation all day.
-Ethan

Since the spot it would be coming out of the house is on the least viewable corner of the home, nsoo one will ever really see this other then when the utility comes and checks the electric meter; I was planning on running the pvc down closer to the ground and away from the foundation a bit. Maybe just route it to one of them stone splash guard things you stick under the gutter drains since there's one not far away. Could also run it out nearer to the AC units, since that sits on a rock bed and would disperse the water better. No one would notice a small PVC pipe running from the house down the ground about 1' away from the home there.

My goal was to do as little drilling and whatnot as possible. There's not a lot of room under the kitchen sink, as that is where every toxic chemical in the house is stored and the only reason I have free reign in the basement is because it's out of sight. Where I want it in my basement gives me the ability to do it all down there away from everyone else, so that's what I'm going to try to do.

If I use the sharkbite fitting, you think they have a reducing tee so I could do what you're saying with one fitting, instead of two?

Here is an awful blueprint of my basement made in paint(only drew the joists to show which direction they run):

 

[AqOb]

You still need 2 fittings, a tee and a valve with a compression fitting. I would still put a second valve inline next to the unit. Is there a bathroom sink on the first floor to tie into the drain? I would definitely try to keep the waste water in the house if possible. I would think 200-400 gallons a day is a lot for the area around the foundation to handle. Maybe someone with more experience could chime in?
-Ethan
BTW where in HC are you?

 

[Mark...]

You still need 2 fittings, a tee and a valve with a compression fitting. I would still put a second valve inline next to the unit. Is there a bathroom sink on the first floor to tie into the drain? I would definitely try to keep the waste water in the house if possible. I would think 200-400 gallons a day is a lot for the area around the foundation to handle. Maybe someone with more experience could chime in?
-Ethan
BTW where in HC are you?

Will the waste line be ok going against gravity to the first floor?

 

[AqOb]

Will the waste line be ok going against gravity to the first floor?

Yes....
The waste line needs to be able to flow freely. Any additional events after the flow restrictor can change the flow through the membrane. Going up a couple of feet shouldn't create any significant change. If you notice a significant increase in product water something is wrong, or you can cut the flow restrictor length, or use an adjustable restrictor.

 

[ATLL765]

You still need 2 fittings, a tee and a valve with a compression fitting. I would still put a second valve inline next to the unit. Is there a bathroom sink on the first floor to tie into the drain? I would definitely try to keep the waste water in the house if possible. I would think 200-400 gallons a day is a lot for the area around the foundation to handle. Maybe someone with more experience could chime in?
-Ethan
BTW where in HC are you?

Technically I'm in Clinton Township even though my mailing address is Annandale.

I manufacture nowhere near 200-400 gallons per day in waste water. It's more like 50-60 gallons per use. I only have a 90GPD system and I only do a 10-15% water change every week on my 20G nano. So I really make like 15 gallons on one day, every 2 weeks. I now have a 65 thanks to Brian, but that's still empty at the moment.

 

[AqOb]

Round valley area. I used to be over in Highbridge, now up in Washington. Grew up west by the Delaware. Not many saltwater tanks out there.

 

[ATLL765]

Round valley area. I used to be over in Highbridge, now up in Washington. Grew up west by the Delaware. Not many saltwater tanks out there.

My family moved out here when I was 7-8. It's pretty, but man is there a dearth of restaurants and entertainment around here. Just wish I could even get chinese delivered or that there was a half decent restaurant/bar in the area. It's like living on the moon sometimes.

I've always wanted a SW tank. Never had the money until recently and a friend read about the Peacock mantis, so we split the cost on a 20G to get one. It's definitely a unique pet. Figured it seemed like a good place to start out in SW and has gone pretty well so far.

 

[Mark...]

My family moved out here when I was 7-8. It's pretty, but man is there a dearth of restaurants and entertainment around here. Just wish I could even get chinese delivered or that there was a half decent restaurant/bar in the area. It's like living on the moon sometimes.

I've always wanted a SW tank. Never had the money until recently and a friend read about the Peacock mantis, so we split the cost on a 20G to get one. It's definitely a unique pet. Figured it seemed like a good place to start out in SW and has gone pretty well so far.

I just did a search om Peacock Mantis..wow that's a bad *** Shrimp...ps, I think the lady in the video is from The Big Bang Theory...

[video=youtube;-lgNHdx3Q6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgNHdx3Q6s#t=94[/video]

 

[ATLL765]

I just did a search om Peacock Mantis..wow that's a bad *** Shrimp...ps, I think the lady in the video is from The Big Bang Theory...

[video=youtube;-lgNHdx3Q6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgNHdx3Q6s#t=94[/video]

Haha, yeah. It's truly amazing how fast and strong they are. If you blink just as it's about to move, it's like the thing can teleport, lol. I just wish I knew what it was thinking when I'm not paying attention and I turn around to see it about 2" from the edge of the glass, just staring at me. Definitely not your average aquarium inhabitant.