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kschweer said:
How far would the nearest sink be? I have seen people run the waste line to the nearest sink on the first floor, drill a small hole under the sink and hook up to the sink drain before the trap with a saddle valve like the one that comes with the BRS units.
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The up stairs kitchen is the closest, about 30 ft away.
 
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I tapped mine into a sewer line. Used a 1/8" tap and a john gusset fitting. Haven't had Any issues. I put it on the top of the pipe. You would only need a trap if the pipe is open to the air. The water in the trap blocks the sewer gases from entering the house. The ro line would be sealed so you should be fine. Mine has been for over a year.


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PaulM said:
I tapped mine into a sewer line. Used a 1/8" tap and a john gusset fitting. Haven't had Any issues. I put it on the top of the pipe. You would only need a trap if the pipe is open to the air. The water in the trap blocks the sewer gases from entering the house. The ro line would be sealed so you should be fine. Mine has been for over a year.


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That sounds like a good way to go. Was this the type of fitting you used?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XTZCJW/ref=biss_dp_t_asn
 
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Also, if you have any test t's or other clean outs you can install it in the cap so if you ever remove the ro you can just replace the cap with a new one. If not you could plug it with a PVC pipe plug.


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PaulM said:
Also, if you have any test t's or other clean outs you can install it in the cap so if you ever remove the ro you can just replace the cap with a new one. If not you could plug it with a PVC pipe plug.


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I have a clean out cap close by....I'll check it out.
 
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Mark I would be real hesitant to tap into a waste line in the basement. With the unit running I see no issue but when it is not I wouldn't want waste to run into the line. If you can put a pump in that sump you will want a sink down there anyway to wash things in and you can make it drain into the sump being you really won't be using any real harsh chemicals. Then you can pump it outside. Or just put a real sink in and pump it to the waste line. They sell all in one units sink with a holding tank a pump and check valve. Then you can dump your rodi waste into that

http://www.qualitybath.com/saniflo-...s+and+bidets&gclid=CLrsoNWFyLsCFSdp7Aod4h4A1w

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Hockeynut said:
Mark I would be real hesitant to tap into a waste line in the basement. With the unit running I see no issue but when it is not I wouldn't want waste to run into the line. If you can put a pump in that sump you will want a sink down there anyway to wash things in and you can make it drain into the sump being you really won't be using any real harsh chemicals. Then you can pump it outside. Or just put a real sink in and pump it to the waste line. They sell all in one units sink with a holding tank a pump and check valve. Then you can dump your rodi waste into that

http://www.qualitybath.com/saniflo-...s+and+bidets&gclid=CLrsoNWFyLsCFSdp7Aod4h4A1w

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I can help you get water hot and cold to the sink
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I was thinking the same thing. If there was ever a problem with the sewerage line and it backs up it could come onto the ro unit. At the very least a check valve on the line going into the sewer line might be a good idea. Not that anything would happen but stuff does happen. Roots clogging the main. Etc. I once had a lady flush a babies diaper that got all the way to the main servicing a 24 unit building. You don't want to know what it was like. Those wax seals on the bottom floor crappers were weak link and the crappers were weeping crap into the units. And Baltic Ave. had a river of poop running down the gutter. Not saying that would happen, but you never really know what can happen. Better safe than sorry.
 
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I was planning on tapping into the top of the pipe with the tube going down against gravity, but the check valve sounds like a good idea. I'm really trying to simplify as much as I possibly can within reason.
 
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I really don't see you having a backup into the ro unit. The water in the line would have to be displaced somewhere and it is a sealed unit. You could use a check valve but I don't feel it's necessary.


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PaulM said:
I really don't see you having a backup into the ro unit. The water in the line would have to be displaced somewhere and it is a sealed unit. You could use a check valve but I don't feel it's necessary.


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It is quite unlikely but could, under the right conditions, happen. It is why they put back flow preventers on water supplies to boilers because of the unlikely event water supply goes down and boiler pressure pushes circ water back into drinking water system. Losing water pressure and having a backup is a highly unlikely scenario but it could happen. And that waste water coming from the ro is a direct line in. And also we are talking about a potable water supply basically being directly hooked up to a sewer line.
And then there is the code enforcement officer (The Poop Police). He might have a thing or two to say about it :)
 
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There are other things to consider Mark, where will you dump your skimmer? And how about your water change water this will be every couple days minimum and every week or two on WC. I think that if you don't put a sink down there you will regret it the first month the tank is up.
We're you thinking you would carry the waste water up the stairs. 180 gallons plus sump what a lot of water when it comes time for water changes.
You also will have to clean reactors, skimmer, pumps and the list goes on and on. I don't think your wife is going to want you to be doing that in the kitchen sink every couple weeks
 
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Another thought is to plumb a pump into the waste line with a shut off valve and a one way valve. I did this on my 180 setup when I had a sump in the basement. Made water changes a snap. No buckets to carry. You could pump directly into a sink as well.


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Updated progress:

Installed GFI for DT

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Built bases for counter top that I had laying around.

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Sexy sump room shot...lol

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RO/DI station with installed hanging board. Wife donated two old end tables. Drilling solid concrete was no fun...Waiting on booster pump to install ro/di unit.

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Merry Christmas!
 
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Hockeynut said:
There are other things to consider Mark, where will you dump your skimmer? And how about your water change water this will be every couple days minimum and every week or two on WC. I think that if you don't put a sink down there you will regret it the first month the tank is up.
We're you thinking you would carry the waste water up the stairs. 180 gallons plus sump what a lot of water when it comes time for water changes.
You also will have to clean reactors, skimmer, pumps and the list goes on and on. I don't think your wife is going to want you to be doing that in the kitchen sink every couple weeks
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I didn't think dumping the skimmer to be a problem, and thought I'd end up draining off the DT up stairs to keep it clean. As much as I'd like to pump off the sump. the salt water will do a job on the lawn.
I'm going to have to think about it some more.

I've spent more money and time on making water and dumping it, than all my previous tank setups combined...lol
 
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[QUO TE=Mark...;755763]I didn't think dumping the skimmer to be a problem, and thought I'd end up draining off the DT up stairs to keep it clean. As much as I'd like to pump off the sump. the salt water will do a job on the lawn.
I'm going to have to think about it some more.

I've spent more money and time on making water and dumping it, than all my previous tank setups combined...lol[/QUOTE]


Spending the time and money now will certainly pay off in the end. Better to have things set up once correctly than to set it up a few times because it wasn't right in the first place. Anything that will make tank maintenance easier is worth it. The easier something is to do the more likely it is to be done.
 
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