redfishbluefish said:
Can you explain what this means, once again i will say im not a plumber.
Basically i think im gonna have to call in some proffesionals, lol
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45 Gallon Custom Marinland Cube Tank Build
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Can you explain what this means, once again i will say im not a plumber.
Basically i think im gonna have to call in some proffesionals, lol
ReeferNets said:
The comment is questioning whether or not the bulkheads are threaded connections (npt=national pipe thread) OR glued up. The comment about purple is that some cleaners used for glued up connections leave their purple die on the pipe…you know you have good coverage of the cleaner. It looks like there is purple up close to your bulkheads so that is why I was guessing they were glued up, not threaded. The likelihood of a glue joint leaking is slim, especially under minimal pressure. However a threaded joint could leak especially if the Teflon tape job or pipe dope wasn’t applied just right. All threaded connections need to have Teflon tape or pipe dope applied to get a good seal.
For some reason I think you have moved…no longer in the Edison/Avenel area. However, if you are close enough, I could stop by. Send me a PM. Thanks, Paul
pm sent and im getting antsy 3 tanks counting. i need two of the gone
ReeferNets said:
I have 3 parts to this reply, so I will color code to make reading them easier.
First off, that sounds like the problem right there. The gasket forms the seal to keep water from dripping through the bulkhead, so it needs to be on the inside where the water is. Take the bulkhead off, put the rubber gasket on the inside as it is supposed to be (use plumber's grease as redfish suggested, if you can determine it is safe for your tank... BUT DO NOT USE SILICONE!) It doesn't really matter which part of the bulkhead is on the inside, but usually the longer part goes through the hole from the inside. The gasket should be on the inside of the part you stick through the hole and the part you tighten down onto the other. That means the part that screws on usually goes on the outside of the tank. 1/4 turn past hand tight should be sufficient as he stated also. Hope that makes sense.
Here is a pretty good "How-to" with pics to give you an idea: http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2514717
I wanted to link to a video, but the closest I could find is putting a bulkhead through a plastic tank... same concept except it's not a glass tank. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxdFBKbNJA
Secondly, redfishbluefish seems to see it the way I do. The purple cleaner made me think you glued the pvc inside the bulkhead fitting, but there are threads on the outside of the bulkhead. This would make your bulkhead connection a male NPT and a straight piece of pvc is considered a slip (or socket) connection. The way you did it isn't the correct way to connect a slip and a Male NPT fitting. I highly suggest a slip x npt union or at least a slip x npt adapter. Whichever you get, just make sure that the threaded end of the fitting will screw onto the bulkhead and the slip/socket end will let your pvc slip into it.
Here is an example of a union that should be used (it doesn't have to be schedule 80 and I wasn't sure of the size you needed). The end you can't see is exactly like the ones you already used:
http://www.indelco.com/p-2458-s080.aspx
Here is an example of an adapter that could be used (again, no need for sch. 80 and size is a guess)
http://www.indelco.com/p-2381-s080.aspx
The union will allow you to disconnect the piping just under your tank because it breaks apart right there, which will make life easy if you ever move it later. Using an adapter will only allow you to disconnect at this point later if you cut your return pipe somewhere to allow you to screw it off at this point (because the 90 bend and additional piping won't let you unscrew it from the bulkhead.) The overflow drain line has a union below, so you could disconnect there and be fine so an adapter would be fine here... but you would still have a pipe hanging down as far as the union when you take disconnect it.
Thirdly, I totally agree with redfishbluefish about having a flex connection somewhere in-line between both bulkheads and where they terminate. This will reduce any tension that may be applied to the bulkheads from piping below. You don't want any tension because that can cause leaks, or worse yet, can cause the glass around the bulkhead to crack.
Thank god for thanksgiving and family.
Some bodies to help me lift the tank.
Some bodies to help me lift the tank.
Haha! Yea, family does have benefits... some times. 
Just thought I'd mention that the video I posted shows installing a gasket on both the inside and the outside of the barrel. You probably only have the one as most only come with one. Put it on the inside as I said above. You don't need both, although a second one wouldn't hurt.
Good luck with the fix. Let us know how you make out.
Just thought I'd mention that the video I posted shows installing a gasket on both the inside and the outside of the barrel. You probably only have the one as most only come with one. Put it on the inside as I said above. You don't need both, although a second one wouldn't hurt.
Good luck with the fix. Let us know how you make out.
i wanna leave work right now and change it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It should be what i did wrong. Otherwise all my plumbing is doing good no leaks or anything.
It should be what i did wrong. Otherwise all my plumbing is doing good no leaks or anything.
I would ask your tank manufacture what side of the glass he recommends the gasket to be on. I've always put them on the dry side as everyone else I know of. Tank builders always told me that and I never had a leak. I've seen them on the wet side before.
Most bulkheads with slip fittings also have NPT.
Most bulkheads with slip fittings also have NPT.
Manufacturer recommends wet side for the washer.
Thanks for the suggestions gentlemen and the fix once i get the washer on the right side.
Ill let ya know how it goes.
Thanks for the suggestions gentlemen and the fix once i get the washer on the right side.
Ill let ya know how it goes.
mikem said:
That's a good point there Mike. With all the explaining I did above, I forgot to explain what to do in order to make the fix, heh.
However, if you can get your hands on some flex pipe before you make the changes, that might be a good idea too.
You could cut the overflow drain line a few inches from the bulkhead, then attach a flex with an appropriate coupling. This would eliminate the union and all the rigid pvc going into the sump. Then cut the return line about the same distance down from the bulkhead and also on the right side of that last 90 elbow going up (the elbow between the bulkhead and that horizontal valve), and replacing that short section with a small piece of flex. Attach both ends with an appropriate coupling.
Well now i think its tiem for saltwater.
I had to get new bulk heads because the ones i had didnt take well to coming off. Tonight or tommorow im going to reglue and cut everything and clean it up and add some SALTYWATER....
Excited and more exciting was the order AQOB got today wowowowow.
I had to get new bulk heads because the ones i had didnt take well to coming off. Tonight or tommorow im going to reglue and cut everything and clean it up and add some SALTYWATER....
Excited and more exciting was the order AQOB got today wowowowow.
New Pictures and thanks to Mikem and redfishbluefish. Time for Water and Rock!!!
We are hooked up no leaks and ready to go.
New and improved plumbing
Full tank shot with sand and temporary light.
We are hooked up no leaks and ready to go.
New and improved plumbing
Full tank shot with sand and temporary light.
Good to hear you got the leaks fixed.
I can't wait to see it stocked either.
I can't wait to see it stocked either.
So would have wills cash register!!!!
Mine are nice too im just glad the guy who got them is more qualified then anyone i know of to captive breed them.
Its presumeable that the club could be breeding oceelaris percula, maroon, leucokranos and latzenatous by years ends.
I need to steal some sand from someone so im off to get a deal or a steal.
Mine are nice too im just glad the guy who got them is more qualified then anyone i know of to captive breed them.
Its presumeable that the club could be breeding oceelaris percula, maroon, leucokranos and latzenatous by years ends.
I need to steal some sand from someone so im off to get a deal or a steal.
I will stand in line :'(
We should create a aquaculture facility DTS.
I cant wait now i have a pair of leucokranos. Let the pairing begin im soooo nervous will got me the smallest leucokranos i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Friday at Wills.
We should create a aquaculture facility DTS.
I cant wait now i have a pair of leucokranos. Let the pairing begin im soooo nervous will got me the smallest leucokranos i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Friday at Wills.
Tank is filled with salty water woop woop.
